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	<title>Comments on: Who is embarassing the School now?</title>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Woods</title>
		<link>http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/02/18/who-is-embarassing-the-school-now/comment-page-1/#comment-38026</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, it is no joke!

Bill and Gert hint at a thread I&#039;ve always wanted to do on this blog, which is a series on great bullshit moments in music text book history. Sadly, I lost all my old textbooks in the fire last year, but I have some fond memories of moments in Grout and Salzmann that were so factually challenged they could have come from the Bush administration press office.....

Alas- maybe someday I&#039;ll have the research materials, but meanwhile, I&#039;d love to hear some more great clunkers from &quot;authoritative&quot; sources....

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it is no joke!</p>
<p>Bill and Gert hint at a thread I&#8217;ve always wanted to do on this blog, which is a series on great bullshit moments in music text book history. Sadly, I lost all my old textbooks in the fire last year, but I have some fond memories of moments in Grout and Salzmann that were so factually challenged they could have come from the Bush administration press office&#8230;..</p>
<p>Alas- maybe someday I&#8217;ll have the research materials, but meanwhile, I&#8217;d love to hear some more great clunkers from &#8220;authoritative&#8221; sources&#8230;.</p>
<p>K</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Brice</title>
		<link>http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/02/18/who-is-embarassing-the-school-now/comment-page-1/#comment-37924</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Brice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reminded of the text that was used for some &quot;20th century music&quot; survey course I took as an undergraduate.  The book is &quot;Introduction to Contemporary Music&quot; by Joseph Machlis.  Machlis ends his section on Sibelius with the following (rather smug) summary:

&quot;Sibelius had a definite contribution to make in the first quarter of our century, when the public was finding its way to the new music.  There was sufficient novely in his work to attract those listeners who liked to think of themselves as advanced.  At the same time there was enough of the old to reassure those who were not yet ready for the truly modern in art.&quot;
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&quot;We today see the Finnish master more realistically.  His music came out of the last period in European culture that was capable of romantic idealism.  It stands in the nineteenth-century tradition.  By the same token, it has little relevance to the problems of contemporary musical thought.  Withal it bears the imprint of a dedicated musician who in the course of a long, fruitful career won an honorable place for himself in the annals of his art.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reminded of the text that was used for some &#8220;20th century music&#8221; survey course I took as an undergraduate.  The book is &#8220;Introduction to Contemporary Music&#8221; by Joseph Machlis.  Machlis ends his section on Sibelius with the following (rather smug) summary:</p>
<p>&#8220;Sibelius had a definite contribution to make in the first quarter of our century, when the public was finding its way to the new music.  There was sufficient novely in his work to attract those listeners who liked to think of themselves as advanced.  At the same time there was enough of the old to reassure those who were not yet ready for the truly modern in art.&#8221;<br />
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&#8220;We today see the Finnish master more realistically.  His music came out of the last period in European culture that was capable of romantic idealism.  It stands in the nineteenth-century tradition.  By the same token, it has little relevance to the problems of contemporary musical thought.  Withal it bears the imprint of a dedicated musician who in the course of a long, fruitful career won an honorable place for himself in the annals of his art.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Gert</title>
		<link>http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/02/18/who-is-embarassing-the-school-now/comment-page-1/#comment-37306</link>
		<dc:creator>Gert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a Kobbé &#039;Complete Opera&#039; at my mother&#039;s which somehow omits Handel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a Kobbé &#8216;Complete Opera&#8217; at my mother&#8217;s which somehow omits Handel.</p>
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		<title>By: ComposerBastard</title>
		<link>http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/02/18/who-is-embarassing-the-school-now/comment-page-1/#comment-36943</link>
		<dc:creator>ComposerBastard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 20:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a joke, right??  Did this &quot;really&quot; happen, Master Ken?  I completed a college course on Sibelius and spent a good field of analysis of his works.  It was one of the most enlightening musical learning experiences as a composer I ever had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a joke, right??  Did this &#8220;really&#8221; happen, Master Ken?  I completed a college course on Sibelius and spent a good field of analysis of his works.  It was one of the most enlightening musical learning experiences as a composer I ever had.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik K</title>
		<link>http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/02/18/who-is-embarassing-the-school-now/comment-page-1/#comment-36935</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Makes me think back to some of those older music books you&#039;d find with &quot;the lives of the great composers&quot; and see guys like Edward McDowell, Amy Beach, et al, but no mention of Mahler or Sibelius.  Way to go IU...you may have the better music school, but we have the better basketball team.  At least historically.  Damn this season.

BTW, I was unaware that you were opening the program with Rienzi.  Way to just invade my personal dream conducting-scape and raid it for 3 of my favorite pieces to perform on one concert, rubbed right in my face from 4,000 miles away.  Good luck...record it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Makes me think back to some of those older music books you&#8217;d find with &#8220;the lives of the great composers&#8221; and see guys like Edward McDowell, Amy Beach, et al, but no mention of Mahler or Sibelius.  Way to go IU&#8230;you may have the better music school, but we have the better basketball team.  At least historically.  Damn this season.</p>
<p>BTW, I was unaware that you were opening the program with Rienzi.  Way to just invade my personal dream conducting-scape and raid it for 3 of my favorite pieces to perform on one concert, rubbed right in my face from 4,000 miles away.  Good luck&#8230;record it!</p>
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