Comments on: Extreme Silliness- The 20 Top Orchestras… As conducted by…. http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/ Music, opinion, life as a performing musician Thu, 24 May 2012 07:43:46 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: ComposerBastard http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/comment-page-1/#comment-63138 ComposerBastard Thu, 04 Dec 2008 15:27:04 +0000 http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/#comment-63138 "The orchestra didn’t get better, they just got a chance to work with a maestro who let them play at their best." Well then, it's easy. Let's move Oregon East Symphony to the top of the list... =) “The orchestra didn’t get better, they just got a chance to work with a maestro who let them play at their best.”

Well then, it’s easy. Let’s move Oregon East Symphony to the top of the list… =)

]]> By: Kenneth Woods http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/comment-page-1/#comment-63129 Kenneth Woods Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:20:59 +0000 http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/#comment-63129 Erik- I'm on it, but you'll need to put your own list together for the comments section (which will annoyingly probably be better than mine)... CB- sadly, all these orchestras can move 10 places on the basis of who conducts them. Five years ago, the orchestra I might have labeled the most over-rated in the US is probably the one I would say is in the top 3 in the world.... The orchestra didn't get better, they just got a chance to work with a maestro who let them play at their best. Erik-

I’m on it, but you’ll need to put your own list together for the comments section (which will annoyingly probably be better than mine)…

CB- sadly, all these orchestras can move 10 places on the basis of who conducts them. Five years ago, the orchestra I might have labeled the most over-rated in the US is probably the one I would say is in the top 3 in the world…. The orchestra didn’t get better, they just got a chance to work with a maestro who let them play at their best.

]]> By: ComposerBastard http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/comment-page-1/#comment-63038 ComposerBastard Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:15:48 +0000 http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/#comment-63038 - How about 20 Top Most Undervalued Orchestras, and using a sort button, Overvalued Orchestra? - How about a relative score or graph? e.g. What's the difference between #1 and #2 - is it a close distance or a very large one? - How about 20 Top Most Undervalued Orchestras, and using a sort button, Overvalued Orchestra?

- How about a relative score or graph? e.g. What’s the difference between #1 and #2 – is it a close distance or a very large one?

]]> By: Erik K http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/comment-page-1/#comment-63001 Erik K Wed, 03 Dec 2008 03:32:46 +0000 http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/#comment-63001 The better question is what would be the top 20 conductor/orchestra pairings throughout history? Assuming Furtwangler and Berlin PO hold the top spot, who would be #2? The better question is what would be the top 20 conductor/orchestra pairings throughout history? Assuming Furtwangler and Berlin PO hold the top spot, who would be #2?

]]> By: Kenneth Woods http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/comment-page-1/#comment-62988 Kenneth Woods Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:51:32 +0000 http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/#comment-62988 Agreed- put NQHO on the list! Agreed- put NQHO on the list!

]]> By: ComposerBastard http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/comment-page-1/#comment-62980 ComposerBastard Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:17:08 +0000 http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/#comment-62980 Lemme understand this...because they dont have funding they aren't considered worthy of being considered for the list? Sound a bit specious to me - along the lines of civil rights for orchestras. I thought this was a list of quality, and not funding? If so, perhaps LSO or Czech should be at the top since they make the most money via film scores and the like? Perhaps if lists were more aligned for quality, orchestra like the NQHO might be able to use that placement to get the funding they deserve. =P Lemme understand this…because they dont have funding they aren’t considered worthy of being considered for the list? Sound a bit specious to me – along the lines of civil rights for orchestras. I thought this was a list of quality, and not funding? If so, perhaps LSO or Czech should be at the top since they make the most money via film scores and the like?

Perhaps if lists were more aligned for quality, orchestra like the NQHO might be able to use that placement to get the funding they deserve.

=P

]]> By: Kenneth Woods http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/comment-page-1/#comment-62953 Kenneth Woods Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:17:20 +0000 http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/#comment-62953 "I think there were certainly other bands in London that deserved a look, but that Noseda guy is doing great stuff in Manchester with BBC Philharmonic." I was trying very carefully to avoid saying which London bands should be added to the list, as I don't want to leave one out and be blacklisted. Let's just agree that there are a number of other orchestras in London besides the LSO that deserve to be on the list! NQHO would certainly deserve consideration on musical merit, no doubt, but they're so underfunded right now that I don't think they can generate enough body of work in the current year to compete. Hopefully we'll see that change in the coming years. “I think there were certainly other bands in London that deserved a look, but that Noseda guy is doing great stuff in Manchester with BBC Philharmonic.”

I was trying very carefully to avoid saying which London bands should be added to the list, as I don’t want to leave one out and be blacklisted. Let’s just agree that there are a number of other orchestras in London besides the LSO that deserve to be on the list!

NQHO would certainly deserve consideration on musical merit, no doubt, but they’re so underfunded right now that I don’t think they can generate enough body of work in the current year to compete. Hopefully we’ll see that change in the coming years.

]]> By: ComposerBastard http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/comment-page-1/#comment-62948 ComposerBastard Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:08:02 +0000 http://kennethwoods.net/blog1/2008/12/02/extreme-silliness-the-20-top-orchestras-as-conducted-by/#comment-62948 wow...no LPO or RPO...and they haven't run you out of the UK yet? And where is the New Queen Hall Orchestra on the list? wow…no LPO or RPO…and they haven’t run you out of the UK yet?

And where is the New Queen Hall Orchestra on the list?

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