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		<title>Urtext Myths 2- Lean and mean? Says who?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth Woods</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[“I dislike the leaner textures  of the new Urtext edition of the Beethoven Symphonies by Jonathan Del Mar, and prefer the more robust sound of the old Breitkopf ediction…” This quote is typical of many reviews I’ve come across recently, both favorable and unfavorable, which equate the new editions of the Beethoven symphonies with a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em>“I dislike the leaner textures  of the new Urtext edition of the Beethoven Symphonies by Jonathan Del Mar, and prefer the more robust sound of the old Breitkopf ediction…”</em></strong></p>
<p>This quote is typical of many reviews I’ve come across recently, both favorable and unfavorable, which equate the new editions of the Beethoven symphonies with a leaner and more transparent sound. One critic might praise a maestro for “scrubbing the over-ripe sound of the Vienna Philharmonic clean by replacing their treasured parts with fresh copies of the new Del Mar edition” while another bemoans how modern editions are inherently lighter and less robust than the old ones.</p>
<p>In fact, while there are many differences between any of the modern Urtext editions and the old Breitkopf parts<strong><em>, virtually none of those has anything to do with transparency or sound quality. </em></strong></p>
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<p>This is not true for all composers. Perhaps the confusion begins with Mahler- the critical editions of Mahler are most important because the represent a later stage of revision than the parts published in his lifetime and now in the public domain. This is because Mahler, the great conductor, used his experience of conducting his own symphonies to constantly refine the orchestration. The vast majority of changes Mahler made in his own works were intended to clarify the orchestral texture- he removed doublings, reduced dynamics and generally thinned out the textures.</p>
<p>In fact, the notion of a “final” version of any of his works seemed to be foreign to Mahler- every time he revisited one of his works, he seemed to re-think some details of orchestration (only very, very rarely did he go beyond changing orchestration, virtually never cutting or re-writing anything and only occasionally modifying tempo markings).</p>
<p>On the other hand, Beethoven rarely re-visited his own music- he was not a reviser. While we have several versions of Mahler or Bruckner symphonies, even revisions of Mendelssohn and Schumann, Beethoven essentially did not revise his symphonies once they were published.</p>
<p>However, like Mahler, he didn’t seem all that interested in leaving a “definitive and final” version of his works. Instead, he was more concerned with writing the next piece than with finalizing details of the last one. Almost the only major re-visitation of his own symphonies was the addition in 1817 of metronome markings, which to me is a huge argument for taking them seriously. He never bothered to clarify hundreds of conflicting details of articulation and dynamics, but he went to great pains to set every tempo in every music.</p>
<p>So, in Mahler, a modern scholarly edition will take into account the composer&#8217;s own revisions as entered in various sets of performing materials and scores. In Beethoven the challenge is different- Beethoven wasn’t particularly interested in revision, but there are many discrepancies between different early sources, and the autographs are not definitive. Beethoven might have made changes to the copyist’s score or the first printed edition and not bothered to insert those into the autograph. There are changes in early editions that seem sure to have come from Beethoven, but whose origins can’t be <strong><em>proven</em></strong> to trace back to him. For the first 3 symphonies, the autographs are lost.</p>
<p>So, different editors, whether they be today’s leading experts or the anonymous staff of the Breitkopf house of the last century, are bound to come to differing conclusions about which source is most likely to be correct.</p>
<p>However, they are all looking at the same piece, and essentially the same version of the same piece. They are not looking at a revised orchestration from later in Beethoven’s life. They are comparing differnt sources, but not different revisions.</p>
<p>There is now a broadly accepted consensus that Beethoven expected his symphonies to be played not by an enormous symphony orchestra of nearly 100 musicians, but by a chamber orchestra. This is not something that originated in any of the critical editions.</p>
<p>In fact, in his edition of the 5<sup>th</sup> Symphony (which was premiered by a smallish orchestra), Clive Brown even points out that Beethoven often used , and may have preferred, quite large orchestras for performances of his works under his supervision. </p>
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		<title>Urtext Myths Part 1</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:34:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth Woods</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[ “The New Bärenreiter Urtext Edition is audibly different and leads to a new way of hearing and understanding the Symphonies.” From the Barenreiter website  For some time now, I’ve been meaning to write a little something on the myths and misunderstandings surrounding Beethoven Urtext editions.  First, before I create a lot of misunderstanding, let me [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><em> </em></strong><strong><em>“The New Bärenreiter Urtext Edition is audibly different and leads to a new way of hearing and understanding the Symphonies.”</em></strong></p>
<p>From the<a href="http://www.baerenreiter.com/html/lvb/lvbwhy.html"> Barenreiter website</a></p>
<p> For some time now, I’ve been meaning to write a little something on the myths and misunderstandings surrounding Beethoven Urtext editions.</p>
<p> <em>First, before I create a lot of misunderstanding, let me affirm that I must be about the best customer either Breitkopf or Barenreiter have- I own scores to both editions of all 9 symphonies and sets of parts to one or the other of all but the 9<sup>th</sup>. None of what is to follow should be taken as my discounting the value of these publications. Rather, to explain what that value is and isn’t.</em></p>
<p>It’s<strong><em> a wonderful thing</em></strong> that in the last 15 years we’ve had a revolution in Beethoven materials, with 2 new Urtext (Breitkopf and Barenreiter) editions now available for conductors (and one more, Henle, in progress, albeit possibly infinitely slow progress).</p>
<p>At the same time, there has been a parallel rise in the influence of performance practice research in Beethoven, which has led to a whole new generation of recordings and performances.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, when scholarship meets marketing hyperbole, self-promotion and the messy business of music criticism, confusion can only ensue.</p>
<p>So, here are a few misconceptions about these new editions that I’ve come across more than once.</p>
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<p>1-       <strong>Metronome markings</strong>.</p>
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<p>Here’s a quote from a recent review of a recent box set of Beethoven symphonies by a well known critic (made google-proof by a slight shift of prose)</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong><em> “These recordings make use of Beethoven’s controversial metronome markings, one of many revelations in Jonathan </em></strong><strong><em>Del</em></strong><strong><em> Mar’s new Urtext edition for Barenreiter, which formed the basis of these performances.”</em></strong></p>
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<p>Neither the Del Mar nor the Breitkopf Urtext editions are breaking any new ground by including Beethoven’s metronome markings. Those are all available in the old editions (Dover, old Breitkopf, Peters, etc), and have been for over a hundred years. <strong><em>If anything, Del Mar, in particular, treats the metronome markings with a greater degree of skepticism than his anonymous predecessors.</em></strong> Beethoven added metronome markings for the first 8 symphonies in 1817 in an article published in the Allgemeine Musikalische Zeitung. Where the old editions reproduce all those metronome markings next to the tempo markings in the scores, Del Mar puts them in footnotes for symphonies 1-6 on the grounds that they were afterthoughts and not part of his original compositional process. In other words, if one was looking for a reason NOT to consider Beethovens metronome markings, Del Mar gives more basis for skepticism than previous editors.  However, for the 7<sup>th</sup> and 8<sup>th</sup> Symphonies, he includes them in the tempo markings, explaining in the Critical Notes that</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">“Since hardly a year earlier Beethoven was making his final revisions to op 92 and 93 in preparation for its publication- so that the work was still relatively fresh in his mind- it seems justifiable to accept these metronome markings as having been determined in the same spirit of creation, as it were, as that of the Symphony itself: and we according present these as  an integral part of the text.”</p>
<p>I find this a <strong><em>quite arbitrary</em></strong> rationalization- how can a mere mortal <em>begin</em> to guess when a genius like Beethoven ceases to have a score of his own creation &#8220;fresh in his mind?&#8221; I am reminded of the story of Shostakovich’s attendance at the long-delayed premiere of his 4<sup>th</sup> Symphony, written in 1935 but premiered in 1961. Shostakovich came to the rehearsals empty handed (without a score), not having looked carefully at the score in 25 years, but was able to fix notes, correct mistakes by the players and give out rehearsal numbers to the conductor from memory without a single mistake. His memory of every single note and dynamic in the huge piece was absolute. For minds like Beethoven and Shostakovich, it’s probable they still had as perfectly vivid a mental image of a work 30 year later as the day they finished it.  On the other hand, the 9th Symhony, which has metronome markings dating to the actual period of comosition, has the most problematic metronome markings of any symphony (and the most concluded by modern scholars to be wrong).</p>
<p>In any case, what is interesting is that there is a whole generation of critics and listeners who think that conductors nowadays are taking the metronome markings more seriously because of the Del Mar edition (the Breitkopf has only been recorded once, by Kurt Masur, and he’s always been a slow Beethoven conductor). In fact, working from Del Mar would tend to make one more skeptical, not less, of the metronome markings.</p>
<p>The whole topic of metronome markings in Beethoven is bigger than this post or this thread, but Toscanini and Erich Kleiber, not to mention Mendelssohn, were taking those markings very seriously a long time ago. Furtwangler, the most often cited example of a pre-metrnome marking conductor, was quite aware of them. Almost all of his recordings express a range of rubato or urgency and repose that goes from far below to far above the metronome markings. Simply checking the first bar’s tempo in Furtwangler won’t do. Conductors and scholars have argued about and struggled with these markings for nearly 200 years, and will continue to do so. If a modern-day conductor is conducting a movement faster than you’re used to, it’s not because of Jonathan Del Mar, Clive Brown or Peter Hauschild (with the exception of the Turkish March in the 9<sup>th</sup>).</p>
<p>Also, just because a conductor advocates “brisk” tempos or claims fidelity to the metronome marking doesn’t mean that their performances validate those claims. I recently came across a box set with a passionate note from the conductor advocating strict adherence to LvB’s metronome markings, but he’s far under the markings in almost every instance. His scholarship and his heart rate seem to be incompatible!</p>
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