{"id":1235,"date":"2010-01-06T12:50:00","date_gmt":"2010-01-06T11:50:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/?p=1235"},"modified":"2010-01-06T12:50:00","modified_gmt":"2010-01-06T11:50:00","slug":"kindertotenlieder-i-tempo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2010\/01\/06\/kindertotenlieder-i-tempo\/","title":{"rendered":"Kindertotenlieder I- Tempo?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I had an email from a very gifted composer friend the other day which seemed fodder for a blog post\u2026\u2026<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Hey Ken,<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I recently turned on some Korean and Japanese composers to western dramatic music, and directed them specifically to Mahler. Interestingly, I told them to start with Kindertotenleider, and they all ran into your recordings.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">While checking out your performance in\u00a0Mexico   City, I couldn&#8217;t help notice the tempo on the first movement. Its more brisk\/slightly-faster than other recordings I&#8217;ve heard. I found an unexpected anxiety that comes form the music at that pace, which was unexpected&#8230;.but I wonder what what guides your impulses for that movement? Anything you do that is out of the ordinary for most??<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I ask because of an ever growing curiosity in Mahler&#8217;s perplexing music, and how its led&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Hope all is well!!<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">~Chris<\/p>\n<p>Chris-<\/p>\n<p>Great to hear from you, as always.<\/p>\n<p>I can\u2019t claim too much for my tempo in Nun will die Sonn\u2019 so hell aufgeh\u2019n- I\u2019m sure there are even faster performances as well as many that are slower. I suppose Jesus Suaste and I arrived at that tempo through a mixture of artsy-fartsy deep thinking, simple obedience and mundane practicality.<\/p>\n<p>On the \u201cmundane practicality\u201d front, we had to consider that Toluca (where this was filmed- we did it again in Mexico City the next day) is more than a mile above sea level (2,667\u00a0m (8,750\u00a0ft)) \u00a0, and Jesus lives on the sea, which means there were places were we couldn\u2019t go as slowly as we might have at a lower altitude. In this case, our preferred tempo was the one we ended up at, which gave him plenty of air for the phrase even at that altitude. However, there were other spots where we had to be more cautious, especially early in the week- in some instances, after a few days and a bit of acclimatization, we could take more time.<\/p>\n<p>Then, there is simple obedience- Mahler makrs the movement \u201cLangsam und schwermutig\u201d (slowly and melancholy), but also \u201cnicht schleppend\u201d or \u201cnot dragging.\u201d What is the threshold of \u201cschleppend.\u201d It\u2019s hard to define the threshold of schlepping as a scientific matter, but I know it when I feel it. Often in Mahler, when we advises us to not do something, it is his way of gently suggesting we do the opposity. \u201cNicth eilen,\u201d or \u201cnot hurried,\u201d can mean to relax, \u201cnicht schleppend\u201d can mean to move it along. In this instance, I wanted to be true to Mahler\u2019s instruction by avoiding any hint of stasis.<\/p>\n<p>There are interesting features in the opening that hint at why Mahler asks us not to schlep- the long sequences need to hang together, the harmonic rhythm is fairly slow, and we need to hear the phrases as coherent units.<br \/>\nAlso, the text of the song and its setting is telling. The narrator sings \u201cNow will the sun brightly rise as if no misfortune came in the night.\u201d However, the musical line does not rise- it is a descending sequence. It seems that the poet is not simply melancholy, but still deeply conflicted- trying to assert some sense of hope and failing. This friction, this tension between what the poet says (now the sun will brightly rise) and what we know the truth of his situation to be, all of this seems to argue for a slightly more agitated mood at the beginning.<\/p>\n<p>Readers can check out the performance in question here-<br \/>\n<object classid=\"clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" width=\"445\" height=\"364\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/hqTyEKB64EE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;border=1\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><embed type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" width=\"445\" height=\"364\" src=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/hqTyEKB64EE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;border=1\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\"><\/embed><\/object><\/p>\n<p>There is lots more on Kindertotenlieder around the blog-<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/18\/kindertotenlieder-3-spot-the-ghost\/\">http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/18\/kindertotenlieder-3-spot-the-ghost\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/10\/kindertotenlieder-3-wenn-dein-mutterlein\/\">http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/10\/kindertotenlieder-3-wenn-dein-mutterlein\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/10\/ktl2-so-what-do-all-those-notes-really-mean\">http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/10\/ktl2-so-what-do-all-those-notes-really-mean<\/a>\/<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/09\/ktl-2-i-can-feel-it-in-air-tonight\/\">http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/09\/ktl-2-i-can-feel-it-in-air-tonight\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/07\/kindertotenlieder-2-nun-seh-ich-wohl\/\">http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/07\/kindertotenlieder-2-nun-seh-ich-wohl\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/07\/kindertotenleider-1-snapshots-of-a-first-rehearsal\/\">http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/07\/kindertotenleider-1-snapshots-of-a-first-rehearsal\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/04\/kindertotenlieder-1-nun-will-die-sonn-so-hell-aufgehn\/\">http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/04\/kindertotenlieder-1-nun-will-die-sonn-so-hell-aufgehn\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/02\/kindertotenlieder\">http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/01\/02\/kindertotenlieder<\/a>\/<\/p>\n<div id=\"wp_fb_like_button\" style=\"margin:5px 0;float:none;height:100px;\"><script src=\"http:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/all.js#xfbml=1\"><\/script><fb:like href=\"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2010\/01\/06\/kindertotenlieder-i-tempo\/\" send=\"false\" layout=\"box_count\" width=\"450\" show_faces=\"true\" font=\"arial\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\"><\/fb:like><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I had an email from a very gifted composer friend the other day which seemed fodder for a blog post\u2026\u2026 Hey Ken, I recently turned on some Korean and Japanese composers to western dramatic music, and directed them specifically to Mahler. Interestingly, I told them to start with Kindertotenleider, and they all ran into your [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[2,7],"tags":[42,1064],"class_list":["post-1235","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-mahler","category-masterclass","tag-kindertotenlieder","tag-mahler"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1235","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1235"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1235\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1240,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1235\/revisions\/1240"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1235"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1235"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1235"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}