{"id":127,"date":"2006-09-07T17:19:16","date_gmt":"2006-09-07T17:19:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2006\/09\/07\/sibelius-and-mahler-2\/"},"modified":"2020-04-15T19:52:23","modified_gmt":"2020-04-15T18:52:23","slug":"sibelius-and-mahler-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2006\/09\/07\/sibelius-and-mahler-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Sibelius and Mahler"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Being a one himself, Mahler knew better than to trust conductors to know his intentions. Sibelius, on the other hand, famously said that if a performer needed to ask too many questions, they probably shouldn\u2019t play his music.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Think for a moment of Mahler\u2019s \u201cversions\u201d or \u201corchestrations\u201d of the Beethoven and Schumann symphonies. Mahler did not make these because he thought that Beethoven or Schumann couldn\u2019t orchestrate, far from it. <strong>He made these versions to make explicit what he thought any conductor should see as implicit in the originals<\/strong>. As he made them for his own usage, one can see them as conducting lessons or projects for himself- i.e., given the concert hall, players, instruments and so on of his time, how does one realize this music as lucidly as possible? Where do you ask players to release, and when do you ask them to sustain? When everyone is marked forte, how loud do the accompanying voices really play relative to the melody? Where might you reduce or eliminate doublings for the sake of clarity? Being a radical by nature, his solutions are often daring, but they are always aimed at making clear the intent of the composer by making musical textures more transparent and lucid, and isn\u2019t that the true job of any conductor?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><span lang=\"EN-GB\">In his own music, it sometimes seems as if Mahler has tried to make his scores conductor-proof. He doesn\u2019t trust a conductor to ask players to release a chord to a softer sustaining dynamic to allow the melody to come through, so he marks fp. He doesn\u2019t trust the conductor even with understanding the basic form and shape of the piece- every transition and arrival is somehow clarified, underlined and pointed out, through tempo changes, instrumental changes, modulations and so on. He knows what you shouldn\u2019t do- \u201c<em>nicht schleppen<\/em>!\u201d and what you should do- \u201c<em>dr\u00e4ngend!<\/em>\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Read by a sympathetic conductor, however, Mahler\u2019s myriad instructions cease to be seen as marching orders, and instead, come across as the most lovingly thought out conducting lesson imaginable. In fact, in spite of his complexity and scope, I find his scores the easiest to study. It is as if he\u2019s given you <em>his<\/em> score to look at, full of little notes- \u201cplease Ken, could you be sure not to drag here,\u201d \u201cbe careful with the balance- though the violins are forte, the cellos and basses should only be piano so we can here the solo bassoon entrance,\u201d \u201clet this chord die away in the brass,\u201d or \u201cthis is the climax, Ken. That is why I\u2019ve brought 8 extra brass players on stage.\u201d<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><strong>If you just show half of what he puts in his scores with your hands, you\u2019re already on your way to being a much better conductor<\/strong>, and if you take that approach back to Beethoven, you\u2019ll be much better\u00a0there as well. Forget Mahler\u2019s re-orchestrations of Beethoven- study a Mahler symphony for a month, then go through any work of Beethoven\u2019s and ask yourself what Mahler, your old conducting teacher,\u00a0would have asked you to show here, or here or here.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><span lang=\"EN-GB\">If analysis is not your strong point, he walks you through his works- \u201cLook, Ken, second theme. Take your time in the transition, but then not to slowly, and in two, not four, please.\u201d He shows you the foundation and the outline of the piece as a whole, and at the same time reveals the minute details as clearly as possible. <strong><em>His scores are not simply the piece; they are an instruction manual for how to perform the piece.<\/em><\/strong> If you have bad habits or limitations (rushing, dragging, over-conducting), he\u2019s already thought of those, and included a little primer on how to correct them right there on the page.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"EN-GB\"><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Sibelius, on the other hand, <strong>writes <em>only the piece, no instruction manual provided<\/em><\/strong>, and in doing so, <em>forces you to<\/em> <strong>analyze<\/strong> <em>his music<\/em>. He writes the music as he wants it to sound, while\u00a0Mahler writes it as you should perform it- two radically different approaches to notation. As a\u00a0result,\u00a0I would say that it is virtually impossible to conduct a convincing performance of a Sibelius symphony unless you have carefully analyzed every bar (not that I would ever condone conducting a Mahler symphony you hadn&#8217;t analyzed. It just seems that Mahler understood that people would perform his music who didn&#8217;t fully understand it).\u00a0 Where Mahler holds up a sign post saying \u201cnew theme here!\u201d Sibelius simply keeps moving. There is no <em>new <\/em>theme, only a further evolution of the old one; there are no formal landmarks, because his material is in a constant state of evolution and development. As a result, the only way to learn his music is to understand it, and to understand it is to understand the amazing ways in which he develops his ideas over time. He forces you to think about the art of composition, about form, about key, about expectation, because he is so clearly rethinking the very notion of symphonic form.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span lang=\"EN-GB\">Next time, an analysis of Sibelius 5 in hopes of better understanding how a composer like Sibelius works with musical ideas, and how he extracts possibilities from simple ideas that no other composer could.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>c. 2006 Kenneth Woods<\/p>\n<div id=\"wp_fb_like_button\" style=\"margin:5px 0;float:none;height:100px;\"><script src=\"http:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/all.js#xfbml=1\"><\/script><fb:like href=\"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2006\/09\/07\/sibelius-and-mahler-2\/\" send=\"false\" layout=\"box_count\" width=\"450\" show_faces=\"true\" font=\"arial\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\"><\/fb:like><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Being a one himself, Mahler knew better than to trust conductors to know his intentions. Sibelius, on the other hand, famously said that if a performer needed to ask too many questions, they probably shouldn\u2019t play his music. Think for a moment of Mahler\u2019s \u201cversions\u201d or \u201corchestrations\u201d of the Beethoven and Schumann symphonies. 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