{"id":144,"date":"2006-09-18T10:16:10","date_gmt":"2006-09-18T10:16:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2006\/09\/18\/update-mahler-was-definitely-underpaid\/"},"modified":"2006-09-18T10:29:28","modified_gmt":"2006-09-18T10:29:28","slug":"update-mahler-was-definitely-underpaid","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2006\/09\/18\/update-mahler-was-definitely-underpaid\/","title":{"rendered":"UPDATE! Mahler was definitely underpaid."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">This just in, as a follow up to <a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2006\/09\/13\/mahler-was-underpaid\/\">my post<\/a> and that of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.therestisnoise.com\/2006\/09\/is_mahler_overp.html\">Alex Ross<\/a> on Mahler\u2019s salary as conductor of the New York Philharmonic\u2014\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">\u201cIn reply \u2026, the salary proposed to Mahler by the Guarantors&#8217; Committee of the New York Philharmonic in February-March 1911 for 80 to 90 concerts was $30.000, not $90.000. I do not have the time just now to search through the English volume of Mahler&#8217;s letters to <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">Alma<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">, but I was one of the original editors of the German volume and I worked together with Antony Beaumont throughout the whole time of the revision.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">Thus, I do not believe that such a shocking error could have crept in. \u00a0If I am wrong I would be grateful to know the reference so as to inform Antony Beaumont and the American publisher that the figure is erroneous and must be corrected as soon as possible.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Gustav-Mahler-Triumph-Disillusion-1904-1907\/dp\/019315160X\/sr=8-4\/qid=1158574264\/ref=sr_1_4\/104-4542967-0275134?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books\">Henry-Louis de La Grange<\/a>\u00a0 *\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"> <\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">Interesting then that Mahler\u2019s salary in modern numbers would be about $600,000 for 90 concerts, or a meager $6,600\/ concert- about a 10th of what top earning conductors might charge today.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">Alex Ross was not mistaken in his original post; according to the English version of &#8220;Gustav Mahler: Letters to His Wife&#8221;, on p. 391 is the following quotation:\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><\/span>\u00a0<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">&#8220;On 8 March he wrote to the Committee accepting their proposal of 90 concerts for a fee of $90,000\u201d\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"> <\/span><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">So the error is in the book (assuming that Prof. de La Grange is correct). <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">What amazing times we live in, when a scholar like Professor de La Grange can uncover a mistake like this through the power of a couple of blogs and an email list.<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"> <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">Thanks to Deborah Hess and Peter Sheldorn of Mahlerlist for helping get to the bottom of this as well.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">* For those of you who are not Mahler nuts, Prof. de La Grange is\u00a0a leading biographer of Gustav Mahler- the author of a multi-volume biography on the composer.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">c. 2006 Kenneth Woods\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"> <\/span>\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"> <\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><\/span>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p \/><\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"wp_fb_like_button\" style=\"margin:5px 0;float:none;height:100px;\"><script src=\"http:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/all.js#xfbml=1\"><\/script><fb:like href=\"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2006\/09\/18\/update-mahler-was-definitely-underpaid\/\" send=\"false\" layout=\"box_count\" width=\"450\" show_faces=\"true\" font=\"arial\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\"><\/fb:like><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This just in, as a follow up to my post and that of Alex Ross on Mahler\u2019s salary as conductor of the New York Philharmonic\u2014\u00a0 \u201cIn reply \u2026, the salary proposed to Mahler by the Guarantors&#8217; Committee of the New York Philharmonic in February-March 1911 for 80 to 90 concerts was $30.000, not $90.000. 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