{"id":2588,"date":"2011-03-25T01:39:46","date_gmt":"2011-03-25T00:39:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/?p=2588"},"modified":"2016-07-12T17:21:39","modified_gmt":"2016-07-12T16:21:39","slug":"vftp-exclusive-the-real-top-20-of-conducting-part-one-1-5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2011\/03\/25\/vftp-exclusive-the-real-top-20-of-conducting-part-one-1-5\/","title":{"rendered":"VFTP exclusive- The real Top 20 of Conducting. Part One: 1-5"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The current issue of BBC Music Magazine has a featured list of the \u201c20 Greatest Conductors of All Time,\u201d including one fantastic misprint in the press release version of the list now circulating- \u201cTerenc\u201d rather than \u201cFerenc\u201d Fricsay<\/p>\n<p>1. Carlos Kleiber (1930-2004) Austrian<br \/>\n2. Leonard Bernstein (1918-1990) American<br \/>\n3. Claudio Abbado (b1933) Italian<br \/>\n4. Herbert von Karajan (1908-1989) Austrian<br \/>\n5. Nikolaus Harnoncourt (b1929) Austrian<br \/>\n6. Sir Simon Rattle (b 1955) British<br \/>\n7. Wilhelm Furtw\u00e4ngler (1896-1954)<br \/>\n8. Arturo Toscanini (1867-1957) Italian<br \/>\n9. Pierre Boulez (b1925) French<br \/>\n10. Carlo Maria Giulini (1914-2005) Italian<br \/>\n11. Sir John Eliot Gardiner (b1943) British<br \/>\n12. Sir John Barbirolli (1899-1970) British<br \/>\n13. Terenc Fricsay (1914-1963) Hungarian<br \/>\n14. George Szell (1897-1970) Hungarian<br \/>\n15. Bernard Haitink (b1929) Dutch<br \/>\n16. Pierre Monteux (1875-1964) French<br \/>\n17. Yevgeny Mravinsky (1903-1988) Russian<br \/>\n18. Sir Colin Davis (b1927) British<br \/>\n19. Sir Thomas Beecham (1879-1961) British<br \/>\n20. Sir Charles Mackerras (1925-2010) Australian<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve had a few friends and colleagues attempt to bait me into commenting on the list, but have been somewhat hesitant to do so. It turns out that if you single out any living conductor for praise, you run the risk of offending all other living conductors, their agents and their orchestras, and never working again.<\/p>\n<p>Still, it\u2019s an interesting exercise- I <em>like<\/em> ranking things, and most topics, like \u201cmost over-rated pianist\u201d are not suitable for the blog. I\u2019ve therefore decided to leave off all living conductors, even though Haitink would have made my list, and Harnoncourt and Boulez might have had a chance.<\/p>\n<p>In any case,\u00a0 I thought the real value in such a list might be educational. No one conductor is likely to be great at everything, but what they <em>are<\/em> great we can learn from- it&#8217;s important to know where to set the bar of what constitutes great Bruckner or fantastic Shostakovich. Until you know and understand what the greats were great at, you\u2019re in no position to make reasoned assessments of those of us working today. Likewise, if we simply canonize our favorite artists, then there is no incentive for the art to keep growing and evolving. Therefore, I\u2019m going to try to find something critical as well as something complimentary about everyone on the list.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve also intentionally been a little bit arbitrary and perverse with the numerical ranking. Definitive and defensible, this is not!<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><strong>1. <\/strong><strong>Wilhelm Furtwangler<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Furtwangler was the greatest musical storyteller ever to stand before an orchestra. At his best, his performances have un-matched sweep and drama. He also got about the most powerful, elemental, primal and robust sound in history out of the orchestras he worked with, especially the Berlin Philharmonic. The radio broadcasts of his WW II era Beethoven symphonies may be the greatest recordings ever made.<\/p>\n<p>PROS- Incredible ear for sound and articulation. Tremendous sense of legato. Incredible architectural clarity. Near genius at rubato. Mojo-a-gogo.<\/p>\n<p>CONS- Sometimes the tempo risks he takes with temp don\u2019t work and the performances collapse into mannerism. Not strong on more classical Beethoven\u00a0 symphonies like 4 and 6. (The video sample below is both amazing and upsetting), but his dramatic Beethoven (3, 5 and 9) is incomparable.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Furtwangler conducts Die Meistersinger in 1942\" width=\"1080\" height=\"810\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/3rM96_RS1Os?feature=oembed\"  allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>2. <\/strong><strong>Carlos Kleiber<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Just about everyone agrees that Kleiber was the best stick-waver who ever waved a stick. He turns conducting into performance art in a really good way. His fast tempos, such as those in the outer movements of Beethoven 7 or the fast music in Die Fledermaus, are simply miraculous. In later years, his own perfectionism began to get in his way- rare as the performances were, they were more and more likely to suffer from a bit of neurosis and a lack of trust in himself and the musicians.<\/p>\n<p>PROS- Incredible hands and eyes.\u00a0 Makes Beethoven\u2019s tempos work like nobody else. Profound empathy for Viennese style, capable of un-surpass-able elegance.<\/p>\n<p>CONS- Kleiber owed the world more of his gifts than he shared. He owed it to everyone who admired him to find a way past his demons to give us all the Brahms symphonies, all the Mahler, Bruckner and Beethoven. He owed the world a Kleiber La Mer, and a lot more concertos. Age didn\u2019t bring wisdom in his case- his few late performances lack the confidence and conviction of his best work from the 70\u2019s\u00a0 and 80\u2019s. Turns out, according to those who knew him, that Erich Kleiber was not his biological father- it&#8217;s believed Alban Berg was.<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=JFbf3keUi-s<\/p>\n<p><strong>3. <\/strong><strong>Eugen Jochum<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Isn\u2019t no. 3 a little high for Jochum? Well, Jochum is one of those truly great conductors who never seems to get his due on these lists, so I\u2019m making a point. Known today as a Bruckner specialist, he was also the greatest Brahms conductor who ever lived. His Brahms cycle with the LPO from the 70\u2019s is as good as it gets, his Berlin cycle from the 50&#8217;s almost as good as that. Very much descended from Furtwangler, Jochum may not have had quite the elemental temperament, but his sense of rubato, while still incredibly daring, is perhaps more un-erring than even that of Furtwangler.<\/p>\n<p>PROS- Best Brahms conductor ever. Among best Bruckner conductors ever. Classic German technique- shows everything without any showboating. Can\u00a0 be incredibly daring with tempi and rubati, but to fantastic effect. Kept getting better and better right to the end of his life- witness this Bruckner from just before his death. Look at his hands- very small and focused motions but so powerful.<\/p>\n<p>CONS- Repertoire a little limited. Some of his earlier Bruckner needed more architecture and less pushing and pulling of tempos.<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=N5Ic6t0_qEg<\/p>\n<p><strong>4. <\/strong><strong>Ferenc Fricsay<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Every conductor and critic should carefully study the film of him rehearsing The Moldau with a so-so orchestra in Stuttgart before his death. He totally transforms that band in 45 minutes, and gives the best performance of that piece you\u2019ll ever hear. A huge talent and a very interesting musician.<\/p>\n<p>PROS- Great Bartokian, great hands, very exciting performer. Incredible Beethoven performer, including the best Beethoven 1 ever<\/p>\n<p>CONS- Recorded a lot of Vienese repertoire which lacks a little bit of warmth and charm<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Ferenc Fricsay - La Moldava rehersal (sub ITA) [2\/5]\" width=\"1080\" height=\"810\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/klnfAB1wpKw?feature=oembed\"  allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>5. <\/strong><strong>Dimitri Mitropoulos<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>One of the greatest musicians of the 20<sup>th<\/sup> century, according to everyone I\u2019ve met who knew him.\u00a0 An amazing musical mind, tremendous charisma and total commitment to everything he did. It\u2019s one of the great tragedies of conducting history that there are so few recordings that do him justice, and almost no video or film.<\/p>\n<p>PROS- Astound memory, depth of musicianship and ear. Very committed performer who inspired almost un-matched adulation and admiration from orchestra musicans.<\/p>\n<p>CONS- Sometimes he seems to have wanted more than the musicians of his day could give. Some of the recordings are a little scrappy, although many of those are live. I wish there were a better video to show, but if you can get past the limitations of it as a document, what he does is pretty amazing.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Dimitri Mitropoulos conducts New York Philharmonic in rehearsal and concert\" width=\"1080\" height=\"810\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/Kl-dSoNHx8Y?feature=oembed\"  allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<h3>Continue to the rest of the series:<\/h3>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2011\/03\/25\/vftp-exclusive-the-real-top-20-of-conducting-part-two-6-10\/\" target=\"_blank\">VFTP exclusive- The real Top 20 of Conducting. Part Two: 6-10<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2011\/03\/26\/vftp-exclusive-the-real-top-20-of-conducting-part-three-11-15\/\" target=\"_blank\">VFTP exclusive- The real Top 20 of Conducting. Part Three: 11-15<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2011\/03\/28\/a-real-conducting-divertimento-the-legendary-composer-conductors\/\" target=\"_blank\">A \u201creal\u201d conducting divertimento- the legendary composer-conductors<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2011\/04\/04\/who-is-not-in-the-real-top-20\/\" target=\"_blank\">Who is not in the \u201cReal\u201d Top 20\u2026<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2011\/04\/21\/vftp-exclusive-the-real-top-20-of-conducting-part-four-16-20\/\">VFTP exclusive- The real Top 20 of Conducting. 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