{"id":271,"date":"2007-03-01T07:33:19","date_gmt":"2007-03-01T07:33:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/03\/01\/the-real-problem-with-the-chopin-piano-concertos-is-the-piano\/"},"modified":"2007-04-26T01:59:51","modified_gmt":"2007-04-26T01:59:51","slug":"the-real-problem-with-the-chopin-piano-concertos-is-the-piano","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/03\/01\/the-real-problem-with-the-chopin-piano-concertos-is-the-piano\/","title":{"rendered":"The real problem with the Chopin Piano Concertos is the piano"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">And the conductor\u2026..<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">I\u2019m not the first person to try to make the case that the most prolific and dynamic moment in music history might have been the generation of composers who followed Beethoven. Most generations might give us two genius composers- Mozart and Haydn or Bach and Handel, but in the second quarter of the 19<sup>th<\/sup> century we had Schubert, Schumann, Mendelssohn, Berlioz, Weber and Chopin all writing at the height of their powers. Perhaps only in the first quarter of the 20<sup>th<\/sup> century have we ever seen another such outpouring of creativity.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">Of all those composers, it is the music of Chopin which is least heard and most maligned in the orchestral world. Fair enough- as a self-promoted concert pianist, there was no incentive for him to write symphonies, overtures and operas and all his orchestral music involves the piano.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">However, over time, a consensus has evolved that Chopin\u2019s piano concerti are actually something close to bad pieces for the orchestra. So much so that I, idiot that I am, never programmed one until I was asked by the BBC to record the first with <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">Piers Lane<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"> for Discovering Music this week.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">Granted, these are not virtuoso pieces for the orchestra, and the orchestration is not as perfect as that of Mendlessohn, but whose is? In fact, of that whole generation, including Berlioz, the only major composer whose use of the orchestra doesn\u2019t create huge problems for the conductor is Mendelssohn, and Beethoven is even more problematic than any of them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">This should be no surprise- it was a revolutionary period, and composers were looking for thrilling new ways of using the orchestra, not honing ancient and established techniques of orchestration.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">History has compounded this problem. We now play this music in bigger halls with bigger orchestras, heavier horns, louder brass instruments, more resonant timps. Projecting the music content of the music and finding the right balances is a bigger problem than ever, even if modern orchestras make a glorious racket when they play this stuff.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">The standard accusation against Chopin is that his orchestration is boring. However, remember, if we only knew Beethoven the orchestrator from his concerti, we might think he was a little boring too. However, I must admit that my impression from attending a few performances of the E Minor concerto over the years was that, indeed, the orchestra writing was pretty beige- lots of soft string chords in the middle register.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/>Idiot!<\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">When I got out the score, I discovered there was tons of stuff in this piece that I\u2019ve never heard before. In particular, there are some very tasty wind and horn countermelodies that you might never have even sniffed, and the string writing is also more sophisticated than is usually apparent. Chopin cleverly uses pizzicato to add a bit of brilliance to the texture, and uses the double basses very cleverly and with great discretion to vary the color of the whole string section.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">The problem is that you never tend to hear this stuff in the hall. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">Much of the problem is that we now hear this music played on a piano that is significantly louder and heavier than Chopin\u2019s. Chopin has scored everything with a smaller, softer, less resonant piano in mind than you\u2019ll ever hear it on today. In fact, in most concertos from Beethoven up to, but not including Brahms, there is a big problem, which is that we now have all our woodwind soloists sat 20 feet behind a very heavy, acoustically opaque wall called a piano lid. I\u2019ve only ever heard one live performance of the Emperor concerto where I could hear all the woodwind solos! Also, the bigger piano sound really takes its toll on pizzicato- they die off faster than the piano, where as arco playing sings through as the piano releases. The problem with the bass writing is simpler- most conductors never figure out where their bass section is sat. I\u2019ve watched whole weeks go by as a cellist where all the basses saw of a conductor was their ass, while they gazed lovingly at the first violins.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">So- there\u2019s my mission for the week. Balance, baby, balance. The orchestration will never be exciting in its own right like Mahler or Ravel, but I have this crazy idea that if the audience can hear everything Chopin wrote they\u2019ll go home thinking it\u2019s a pretty swell piece. Really, it\u2019s not rocket science\u2026..<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">Wish me luck<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">c. 2007 Kenneth Woods<\/span><\/p>\n<p><script language=\"JavaScript\" src=\"http:\/\/hostingprod.com\/js_source\/geov2.js\"><\/script><script language=\"javascript\">geovisit();<\/script><noscript \/><script language=\"JavaScript\"> <!-- var SymRealOnLoad; var SymRealOnUnload;  function SymOnUnload() {   window.open = SymWinOpen;   if(SymRealOnUnload != null)      SymRealOnUnload(); }  function SymOnLoad() {   if(SymRealOnLoad != null)      SymRealOnLoad();   window.open = SymRealWinOpen;   SymRealOnUnload = window.onunload;   window.onunload = SymOnUnload; }  SymRealOnLoad = window.onload; window.onload = SymOnLoad;  \/\/--> <\/script><\/p>\n<div id=\"wp_fb_like_button\" style=\"margin:5px 0;float:none;height:100px;\"><script src=\"http:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/all.js#xfbml=1\"><\/script><fb:like href=\"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/03\/01\/the-real-problem-with-the-chopin-piano-concertos-is-the-piano\/\" send=\"false\" layout=\"box_count\" width=\"450\" show_faces=\"true\" font=\"arial\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\"><\/fb:like><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>And the conductor\u2026.. 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