{"id":331,"date":"2007-05-04T20:21:18","date_gmt":"2007-05-04T20:21:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/05\/04\/shut-yer-yapper\/"},"modified":"2007-05-18T16:39:46","modified_gmt":"2007-05-18T16:39:46","slug":"shut-yer-yapper","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/05\/04\/shut-yer-yapper\/","title":{"rendered":"Shut yer yapper"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\">Quote of the week <a href=\"http:\/\/boiseviola8.blogspot.com\/2007\/04\/like-puddle.html\" target=\"_blank\">from <\/a><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"><a href=\"http:\/\/boiseviola8.blogspot.com\/2007\/04\/like-puddle.html\" target=\"_blank\">Boise&#8211;<\/a>&#8211;<\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial\" \/><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">\u201c<\/font><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">He has decent things to say to the orchestra, but by the time he says them, you&#8217;ve stopped caring. It&#8217;s extremely difficult to pay attention. I&#8217;m trying, but failing miserably. I sat assistant principal last night, and that didn&#8217;t even improve my attention span. I am officially a bad person.<\/font><\/font><\/span><\/font><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">Plus, talking is coaching. Coaching is not conducting. If you are talking, your message to the orchestra is &#8220;I am going to tell you what it is I want. There&#8217;s really no need to look up, because we will discuss it ahead of time.&#8221; Conducting is conducting. Musicians work for decades to achieve a vocabulary of effective physical motions that translate into sounds&#8230;why don&#8217;t conductors take this aspect as seriously?\u201d <\/font><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"color: #333333\" \/><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\">\u201cCoaching is not conducting\u2026. Conducting is conducting.\u201d <\/span><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/span><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\">Love it. I couldn\u2019t agree more, and I\u2019m sure the conductor in question, whoever that is, would agree as well. <\/span><\/span><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\">In theory, a conductor only stops to talk when she or he\u00a0feels that the orchestra has not responded to a gesture. If I show a fp to the band twice, and both times it\u2019s ignored, I have to assume that they\u2019re not watching, not reading or that it\u2019s missing in their music, so we talk. The hardest thing for a conductor is having the eyes outside of your head to see clearly whether you _did_ show that fp or that diminuendo or that accelerando. As one, very famous, colleague and friend once said to one of the great British orchestras when told they couldn\u2019t catch him, \u201cFunny, it looked great in the mirror this morning.\u201d Every conductor, from Bob the band director at the middle school to Karajan and Kleiber gets it wrong sometimes- you have to know that you can live with the certainty of your occasional but certain failures if you&#8217;re going to conduct.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/font><\/font><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\">As a guest conductor, it can be more difficult to judge when to stop and talk, because there is no established rapport. It takes time for an orchestra to get used to a conductor\u2019s gestural vocabulary, so the conductor may be tempted to panic and start coaching when actually the orchestra needs to see more of you conducting. I always try to run things in the first rehearsal, even with a band I\u2019ve never seen. At first, you might feel like they\u2019re not responding at all (some respond instantly, some take time, it depends on thousands of factors), but by the end of a run-through of a symphony, the dynamic has changed. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\">However, I\u2019m going to go out on a limb here\u2026 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/font><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\">I\u2019m well aware that what may orchestral musicians like is to play, and not to stop a lot. I think there\u2019s an ideal that a sign of a good conductor is that he or she almost never stops. Run the thing, sort out any crashes, run it, play it. Of course, no orchestra member would ever rehearse their chamber ensemble like that. You don\u2019t become the Tackacs Quartet by just running Bartok quartets over and over up to speed, and nobody prepares their solo rep running whole things up to speed. There\u2019s nothing better as a conductor than knowing that the orchestra will put the laser beam on things and do 9 notes, and only 9 notes, until they\u2019re perfectly together. I\u2019m not talking nit-picking, I\u2019m talking really focusing. When I first went to the Surrey Mozart Players, they made it clear early on that they didn\u2019t come to hack through things- they wanted to properly rehearse. It\u2019s made our work together more rewarding. Hopefully, I\u2019m avoiding coaching- their schedule is still very tight. <\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\">I suggest\u2026 <\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\" \/><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\" \/><\/span><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/font><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\">Coaching is not conducting. Conducting is conducting. Performing is not practicing. Practicing is practicing. Rehearsing is not coaching. Rehearsing is just rehearsing.<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/font><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><span style=\"color: #333333\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"><span style=\"font-size: 10pt; color: #333333; font-family: Arial\"> <\/span><\/span><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/font><\/span><\/font><\/p>\n<p>UPDATE-<\/p>\n<p>Jen&#8217;s follow up puts it even better-<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Let me say this: it&#8217;s one thing if you want to stop and talk about stuff, and we get right back at it. But if you stop and talk for upwards of ten minutes about an issue with no one playing, then we have a problem.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve made a point of not knowing who she is talking about- could be a relative for all I know, but I know what she&#8217;s talking about. Amen<br \/>\n<\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<div id=\"wp_fb_like_button\" style=\"margin:5px 0;float:none;height:100px;\"><script src=\"http:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/all.js#xfbml=1\"><\/script><fb:like href=\"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/05\/04\/shut-yer-yapper\/\" send=\"false\" layout=\"box_count\" width=\"450\" show_faces=\"true\" font=\"arial\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\"><\/fb:like><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Quote of the week from Boise&#8211;&#8211; \u201cHe has decent things to say to the orchestra, but by the time he says them, you&#8217;ve stopped caring. It&#8217;s extremely difficult to pay attention. I&#8217;m trying, but failing miserably. I sat assistant principal last night, and that didn&#8217;t even improve my attention span. 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