{"id":343,"date":"2007-05-18T11:35:51","date_gmt":"2007-05-18T11:35:51","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/05\/18\/noble-sentinments-on-the-art-of-conducting\/"},"modified":"2007-05-18T14:39:47","modified_gmt":"2007-05-18T14:39:47","slug":"noble-sentinments-on-the-art-of-conducting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/05\/18\/noble-sentinments-on-the-art-of-conducting\/","title":{"rendered":"Noble sentinments on the art of conducting"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Charles Noble has a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nobleviola.com\/wordpress\/2007\/05\/13\/conductors-and-conducting\/\">very interesting post on conductors and conducting<\/a>&#8211; specifically, it is a list of ten things conductors would be wise to keep in mind when they get in front of an orchestra, which includes this week\u2019s Quote of the Week-<br \/>\n<font size=\"3\">\u00a0<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font size=\"3\"><font face=\"Times New Roman\">\u201c\u2026this is not the time to beat as though one is folding egg whites while listening to Prelude to Afternoon of a Faun by Debussy.\u201d<\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p>I found his post both encouraging and slightly depressing.<\/p>\n<p>Encouraging, because I <strong><em>agree completely with everything he says<\/em><\/strong>, except for this-<br \/>\n<font face=\"Times New Roman\" size=\"3\">\u00a0<\/font><\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Times New Roman\"><font size=\"3\">3-<\/font>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <font size=\"3\">If we\u2019re playing a tricky ensemble passage but it\u2019s a bit too loud and there are some agogic accents, don\u2019t stop and berate us &#8211; we\u2019re doing this to hear each other and to play together. If, on the other hand, you\u2019re interested in a undifferentiated wash of indistinct sound, please continue with whatever you were about to tell<\/font> us.<\/font><\/p>\n<p>I understand what Charles is getting at, but I actually believe very strongly that <strong><em>phrasing is almost always the solution<\/em><\/strong> to rhythmic problems. *\u00a0 Playing against the musical character with lots of false accents tends to make things worse. In the short term, you might avoid a train wreck, but every time you do it that way it gets less likely you\u2019ll every make the thing sound effortlessly together. Also, <strong>balance has a big role to play in fixing ensemble problems<\/strong>, and playing something too loud only makes things worse. Chances are, in the unlikely event that the violas are playing too loud, <em>they are doing so because they can\u2019t hear themselves because someone else is playing too loud<\/em>. \u00a0As long as one section is playing out of balance, there will be another section that can\u2019t hear what they need to in order to play together. That said, I don\u2019t thing berating is ever the solution. Let me re-phrase that- <strong><em>berating is never the solution. <\/em><\/strong>\u00a0In my experience, if the conductor is really combing a clear sense of pulse with an unmistakeable sense of musical shape, you almost never need to resort to the too-loud\/accented system of ensemble triage. If it is really a problem, better to simply tackle the rhythmic issue from a totally technical standpoint, that is sort out the problem once and for all, rather than playing it wrong in context. Still, if it\u2019s the Oregon Symph doing what Charles describes, my advice is just keep going and it will probably be fine the second time.<\/p>\n<p>Slightly depressing, because <em>I can\u2019t believe there is a conductor on earth who doesn\u2019t understand and agree with everything Charles is laying out here<\/em>. Everything he says (except possibly no. 3) is %100 bare minimum, basic, common sense good practice. Surely there can\u2019t be anyone making a living at this who doesn\u2019t know this and work according to the principles Charles so clearly lays out.<\/p>\n<p>Okay, wait a minute\u2026. I did make my living as an orchestral cellist for more than half of my life. I take it back.<\/p>\n<p>So the truly depressing question is\u2026. Who hires these turkeys? Karajan might not be availble for every concert, but someone competant and knowledgeable is. I know so many gifted, caring, inspiring, competent, respectful, efficient, musical, professional and agreeable conductors who are totally dedicated to music. I could give you a long list, but I don\u2019t want to lose work to them. Trust me, they\u2019re out there. Musicians should never have to see a fraud.<\/p>\n<p>* One of Ken\u2019s laws of conducting is that you can be musical but not clear and still have the orchestra play together,\u00a0and be better and tighter\u00a0than\u00a0if you are clear and not musical. If you are clear <em><strong>and<\/strong><\/em> musical, it should be fab. On the other hand, if you are not clear and are \u201cmusical,\u201d everyone is out of luck\u2026.. (actually the correct descrption of everyone&#8217;s state when a conductor is &#8220;musical&#8221; rather than musical is the past tense of a word that rhymes with luck).<\/p>\n<p>c. 2007 Kenneth Woods<br \/>\n\u00a0<\/p>\n<div id=\"wp_fb_like_button\" style=\"margin:5px 0;float:none;height:100px;\"><script src=\"http:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/all.js#xfbml=1\"><\/script><fb:like href=\"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/05\/18\/noble-sentinments-on-the-art-of-conducting\/\" send=\"false\" layout=\"box_count\" width=\"450\" show_faces=\"true\" font=\"arial\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\"><\/fb:like><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Charles Noble has a very interesting post on conductors and conducting&#8211; specifically, it is a list of ten things conductors would be wise to keep in mind when they get in front of an orchestra, which includes this week\u2019s Quote of the Week- \u00a0 \u201c\u2026this is not the time to beat as though one is [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1,7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-343","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-music-opion-life-as-a-performing-musician","category-masterclass"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/343","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=343"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/343\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=343"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=343"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=343"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}