{"id":502,"date":"2007-11-27T15:56:53","date_gmt":"2007-11-27T15:56:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/11\/27\/back-to-oxford\/"},"modified":"2009-08-12T12:27:45","modified_gmt":"2009-08-12T12:27:45","slug":"back-to-oxford","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/11\/27\/back-to-oxford\/","title":{"rendered":"Back to Oxford"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve come across an interesting blog that is new to me, Michael Monroe\u2019s MMmusings.<\/p>\n<p>A recent post called \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/mmmusing.blogspot.com\/2007\/11\/saving-best-for-first.html\">Saving the Best for First<\/a>,\u201d caught my attention because it alluded to a <a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/05\/29\/papas-got-a-brand-new-bag\/\">post of mine <\/a>about Haydn\u2019s Symphony no. 92, the &#8220;Oxford.&#8221; Thanks to Michael for the shout out.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As a matter of fact, my much too-wordy attempt above to summarize the beauty of 10 Mozartean seconds reminds me of reading this fine blog <a href=\"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/05\/29\/papas-got-a-brand-new-bag\/\"><strong><font color=\"#cc0000\">post<\/font><\/strong><\/a> by Kenneth Woods. In it, he rhapsodizes at length on the subtleties of the introduction to Haydn&#8217;s Symphony No. 92. When I read the post, I was struck by two things: 1) I know that symphony well, having been taught it and taught it several times, and while I agree that those measures are beautifully written, they&#8217;re not quite as awe-inspiring to me as they are to Woods. 2) That said, it&#8217;s by far my favorite part of that whole 4-movement symphony. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m guilty of a 19th-century aesthetic bias here, but it&#8217;s as if these Classical composers put some of their best drama right up front, followed by nice, elegant comfort music. (Hideous simplification, I admit.) Of course, the Romantics took that flair for mysterious scene-setting and built entire scenes out of such mystery, and I guess I&#8217;m a hopeless Romantic.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Interestingly, events affecting my valuation of that very passage of Haydn\u2019s have continued apace since I wrote that early in the summer. Most importantly, we featured the piece on the Rose City Int\u2019l Conductor\u2019s Workshop this summer and my colleague, David Hoose made those same bars the primary topic of a ninety minute session on score study. If Michael feels that I overstated the &#8220;awe-inspiring&#8221;\u00a0qulities of the introduction to the first movement in my original post, he would despair of me now. Fascinatingly, David spoke for all of that time in the most inspiring and fascinating detail imaginable about those same bars WITHOUT REPEATING ANY OF THE POINTS I had made in my earlier essay. When I conducted the piece again in October, I tried to go one step further and see what I could fine that was distinct from David\u2019s analysis and my previous one, and there was plenty there. I guess I feel they\u2019re more awe inspiring than I did before because I feel that in the last five months I\u2019ve learned enough to be able to appreciate in greater depth what makes them so. I\u2019m not trying to rebut Michael\u2019s great post- just passing on a bit of personal perspective on the piece.That introduction is one of the miracles of all music- it\u2019s pretty damn good even for Haydn, but I\u2019m not sure I can concur that it is \u201cby far\u201d better than the rest ot the symphony. The body of the first movement is full of the most amazing touches, the slow movement is genuinely sublime, and the contrapuntal writing in the finale is out of this world.<\/p>\n<p>Michael certainly has a great point about classical masters knowing how to grab the ear with a great introduction, and his examples of the beginnings of The Creation and Mozart\u2019s Dissonant Quartet are hard to beat- what else does grab the ear like that?<\/p>\n<p>However, (and I assume that Michael\u2019s caveat, \u00a0\u201cHideous simplification\u201d) speaks to this point, there are plenty of examples of classical works where the ending is all important- thing Mozart 41, Mozart 4th Violin Concerto, and think of the many amazing slow movements- the A Major Mozart Piano Concerto is certainly not comfort music!<\/p>\n<p>Also, think of how many great Romantic pieces are possibly\u00a0best known for their openings- Also Sprach, Brahms 1, Tchaik 4, Brahms Piano Quintet, Don Juan, Mahler 5, Tristan, Bruckner 4\u2026 One might even make the assertion that Wagner is one to put the best musical drama up front, followed by nasty, crazy discomfort music. Not me- I love it.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>c. 2007 Kenneth Woods<\/p>\n<div id=\"wp_fb_like_button\" style=\"margin:5px 0;float:none;height:100px;\"><script src=\"http:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/all.js#xfbml=1\"><\/script><fb:like href=\"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2007\/11\/27\/back-to-oxford\/\" send=\"false\" layout=\"box_count\" width=\"450\" show_faces=\"true\" font=\"arial\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\"><\/fb:like><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve come across an interesting blog that is new to me, Michael Monroe\u2019s MMmusings. A recent post called \u201cSaving the Best for First,\u201d caught my attention because it alluded to a post of mine about Haydn\u2019s Symphony no. 92, the &#8220;Oxford.&#8221; Thanks to Michael for the shout out. 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