{"id":769,"date":"2009-02-13T15:31:35","date_gmt":"2009-02-13T15:31:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2009\/02\/13\/another-note-another-blog-post\/"},"modified":"2015-11-20T17:25:49","modified_gmt":"2015-11-20T16:25:49","slug":"another-note-another-blog-post","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2009\/02\/13\/another-note-another-blog-post\/","title":{"rendered":"Another note, another blog post"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>As a follow-up to my post on the volume level of the last note of the first movement of Mahler 5, I wanted to come back to the obvious parallel with the last note of the 2<sup>nd<\/sup> movement. The note in question is a single eighth-note a-natural on the timpani, marked \u201csolo,\u201d \u201cwell-tuned,\u201d accent (&gt;) and sforzando (sf). <strong><em>There is no dynamic over this note<\/em><\/strong>&#8211; the last dynamic in the timpani is 2 before 33, just before the beginning of the last section (about a minute of music back), which is pp.<\/p>\n<p>This note is obviously intended as a link with the pizzicato at the end of the first movement- it almost is a pizzicato, after all. Mahler precedes it with two pizzicato notes in the cellos and basses and it is the conclusion of the same thematic cell as the two notes that precede it.<\/p>\n<p>Kubik tells us that this note had a similar evolution of notation to that of the last note of the first movement-<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cIn the course of time the dynamic indication became louder and louder: in Aut, StV and EA-Stp without exception <em>pp<\/em>, Mahler already altered it to <em>p<\/em> plus accent in W-Stp; in W-Dp he added &#8220;nicht zu schwach&#8221; {&#8220;not too weak&#8221;}; St1 has <em>p <\/em>plus accent, added here in the hand of a player; in St2 <em>sf <\/em>is finally found in the handwriting of a copyist. \u2014 Mahler appears to have had the idea of a delicately effected stroke, which must nevertheless be well audible and which therefore from the point of view of playing technique must not be executed too gently.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><em>St2 is the set of parts revised by Mahler while in New York in 1910-1<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Again, he has first changed pp to p, added a &gt;, then eventually <strong><em>removed any indication of a soft dynamic<\/em><\/strong>, and instead simply marked sf and &gt;.<\/p>\n<p>However, while performers have been aware of the sf at the end of the first movement for many years, few will have seen this one. The Dover (old-Peters) has the original pp, the Ratz p and &gt;. This publishing history would explain why you and I have never heard a parallel to the 1st mvt pizz thwack with a THWACK on the timps. The sf in the 2<sup>nd<\/sup> mvt only came into the published parts and score in 2004. <strong><em>If<\/em><\/strong> the 1<sup>st<\/sup> mvt thwack is played louder than Mahler wanted it (which I&#8217;m not sure we know), it\u2019s because people have misinterpreted his sf, but there\u2019s been no sf in the 2<sup>nd<\/sup> before, so one usually has the opposite problem. \u00a0I can\u2019t tell you how many times I\u2019ve simply not heard that note at all- sometimes the poor timpanist tries to play so softly, she or he misses the drum altogether. Other times, it\u2019s just too anonymous to project.<\/p>\n<p>Wouldn\u2019t it be funny if the publication of this new edition ends up inverting the tradition of 1<sup>st<\/sup> mvt thwack, 2<sup>nd<\/sup> mvt inaudible into 1<sup>st<\/sup> mvt inaudible, 2<sup>nd<\/sup> mvt THWACK? Imagine telling a veteran timpanist that the note he\u2019s been missing the drum trying to play pp for 30 years should really be like a gunshot! \u201cI\u2019ve been playing this piece for 30 years, and no conductor has ever suggested something so absurd\u2026.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, It seems even more absurd to average a post-per-note in writing about Mahler symphonies, since there are LOTS of notes. Still, what is one to conclude from this new information in Kubik? It seems reasonable to infer that, since we now know that both movements with sforzandos, perhaps they should be similar in volume? However, the 2<sup>nd<\/sup> movement ends sf and &gt;, while the 1<sup>st<\/sup> ends only sf. That bit of text seems to argue for the 2<sup>nd<\/sup> movement being louder, something one might never have heard or considered even as a possibility.<\/p>\n<p>And, of course, there is one more difference- \u2018gut stimmen\u2019 or \u201cwell tuned\u201d in the 2<sup>nd<\/sup> movement. Surely Mahler wants everyone to play \u201cgut stimmen\u201d all the time?<\/p>\n<p>Remember Mengelberg\u2019s marking of \u201cdof\u201d or \u201cdull\u201d for the first movement?<\/p>\n<p>In fact, the pizz at the end of the 1<sup>st<\/sup> mvt is another sort of mirror to the timp note at the end of the 2<sup>nd<\/sup>. In the 2<sup>nd<\/sup> mvt, the timpani is completing a thought begun in the strings. In the 1<sup>st<\/sup>, the strings are completely an idea begun in the percussion- the bass drum roll that precedes it, which is itself a completion or continuation of the timp rolls a few bars earlier. This is interesting- Mahler goes from a pitched percussion instrument (timps) to a non-pitched one (bass drum), to a pizzicato, all in the same frequency range. If \u201cdof\u201d has any validity, perhaps it is to say that Mahler wants this pizz heard as a percussive event more than a tonal one- Mahler\u2019s own playing of this passage on the piano roll sounds like this. He plays the note so softly and dryly that one almost can\u2019t hear the pitch.<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, \u201cgut stimmen\u201d seems to be telling the timpanist not only to tune his damn drum, but that that pitch has special significance? Does it?<\/p>\n<p>In fact, it does. The Fifth has an interesting key structure- it begins in C # minor, the 2<sup>nd<\/sup> mvt is in A minor, Scherzo in D major, Adagietto in F major and Finale in D major. Symphonies usually begin and end in the same key, but this \u201cprogressive tonality\u201d is the most quintessentially Mahlerian device you can imagine. Where Beethoven might have expressed transformation by beginning a symphony in, say, a minor key and ending in the major (like his 5<sup>th<\/sup> and 9<sup>th<\/sup> symphonies), Mahler express a similar transformation by beginning in minor and ending in the major, but up a step- sort of a heightened version of what Beethoven did with mode.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, in a symphony that is no so much \u201cin C# minor\u201d as \u201cfrom C # minor and to D major\u201d the A minor of this 2<sup>nd<\/sup> movement plays a special roll. In particular, the a-natural which ends the 2<sup>nd<\/sup> movement can be read as the dominant of the D major which opens the Scherzo.<\/p>\n<p>Likewise, the a-natural which ends the Adagietto in the first violins is the third of the F major chord which ends that movement. When the Finale begins (the two movements are to be played without pause), it is again an a-natural. That \u201cgut stimmen\u201d seems to be Mahler\u2019s way of warning us that the note in question has a special structural function- you could even see at as the pivot point of the entire symphony. A-natural in that moment goes from being the tonic of stormy A minor (the key of Mahler\u2019s \u201cTragic\u201d 6<sup>th<\/sup>, a work in similar mood to the 2<sup>nd<\/sup> movement of the 5<sup>th<\/sup>) to being the dominant of hopeful, radiant D major, but then away again. In the Adagietto it takes us into F major. It seems that all of the other keys in this symphony have symbolic meaning, and can be tied to references in other canonic works. Finding out why the Adagietto is in F major (the key of Beethoven\u2019s first and last quartets as well as the Pastoral- I&#8217;m at a bit of a loss to think of a similarly magical utterance in F major in any other piece) might well be the key to understanding the whole symphony. In any case, it is again the a-natural which is the pivot that takes us finally and definitively into D major- the key of the Finale of Beethoven 9, Haydn\u2019s last symphony, Figaro, Brahms 2, Mahler 1\u2026..<\/p>\n<div id=\"wp_fb_like_button\" style=\"margin:5px 0;float:none;height:100px;\"><script src=\"http:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/all.js#xfbml=1\"><\/script><fb:like href=\"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2009\/02\/13\/another-note-another-blog-post\/\" send=\"false\" layout=\"box_count\" width=\"450\" show_faces=\"true\" font=\"arial\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\"><\/fb:like><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As a follow-up to my post on the volume level of the last note of the first movement of Mahler 5, I wanted to come back to the obvious parallel with the last note of the 2nd movement. 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