{"id":804,"date":"2009-04-15T00:47:29","date_gmt":"2009-04-15T00:47:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2009\/04\/15\/battle-of-the-beethoven-urtexts\/"},"modified":"2012-06-02T00:06:19","modified_gmt":"2012-06-01T23:06:19","slug":"battle-of-the-beethoven-urtexts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2009\/04\/15\/battle-of-the-beethoven-urtexts\/","title":{"rendered":"Battle of the Beethoven Urtexts"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I attracted a few titters (as opposed to twitters) on Facebook the other day, when my status admitted I was in the process of comparing Urtext editions of Beethoven\u2019s 2<sup>nd<\/sup> Symphony by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.baerenreiter.com\/cgi-bin\/baer_V5_my\/baerenreiter?op=newuid&amp;ln=en&amp;wrap_html=indexframe.htm\">Jonathan Del Mar (published by Barenreiter)<\/a> and Clive Brown (published by Breitkopf and Hartel).<\/p>\n<p>I still come across interviews with leading Beethoven conductors talking about how for most of their lives there was no critical edition of the Beethoven symphonies available. Suddenly we have two! What to make of them???<\/p>\n<p>The Del Mar has been in circulation for over a decade, and as the first to the post, it\u2019s had the good fortune to be used in recordings of several cycles, notably Gardiner\u2019s, Zinman\u2019s, Abbado\u2019s and several others. I still chuckle when I read reviews of my former teacher David Zinman\u2019s set praising the revelations of the new Urtext edition when I remember David\u2019s gleeful admission in conducting class that his parts where so marked up and edited that they looked, in his words, \u201clike a fucking Mahler symphony.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve conducted all nine in Del Mar by now, and all but the 9<sup>th<\/sup> in the old Breitkopf\/Kalmus\/Mystery edition. There are also good scores available of the First and Second from Henle. \u00a0Last spring I got interested in the new Breitkopf Urtext edition and looked for some reviews of the materials. All I could find on line was one review from a librarian at the LPO who had concerns about the page turns in some of the parts while expressing admiration for the quality of the scholarship.<\/p>\n<p>The most obvious difference between the Breitkopf and Barenreiter editions is the fact that the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.breitkopf.com\/feature\/gruppen\/44\">Breitkopf edition<\/a> shares editorial responsibilities between Clive Brown and Peter Hauschild, while the Barenreiter is entirely the work of Del Mar. The arguments for both approaches are intriguing- a single editor allows for a consistency of editorial approach and realization. Sharing the workload offers the opportunity for a wider breadth of opinion and possibly an edition that is less tainted by the tendencies and prejudices of a single eye and mind.<\/p>\n<p>After all, I\u2019m not sure a real Urtext edition <strong><em>should<\/em><\/strong> have a star editor- the whole point of a scholarly edition ought to be to make the preferences and tendencies of all outside hands- past performers, past editors and current ones- disappear and instead to give us the most honest and unbiased picture of what the composer wrote and wanted, in all its messy contradiction.<\/p>\n<p>Last year, I did the Fifth in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.breitkopf.com\/feature\/werk\/257\">Brown edition<\/a>&#8211; again, there was the question of page turns. Brown leaves open the question of whether there should be a da capo in the Scherzo of the 5<sup>th<\/sup> while Del Mar is against it (although Zinman and Abbado both take it in spite of him- again, just because it says \u201cDel Mar\u201d on the CD box doesn\u2019t mean you\u2019re necessarily hearing the editor\u2019s point of view). Although there were clear markings in the music for taking the da capo repeat, some of the strings had impossible page turns to get back to the top. It wasn\u2019t a big deal, but did necessitate some photocopying.<\/p>\n<p>Otherwise, I found the bar-by-bar comparison of his score with Del Mar\u2019s and my old Norton Critical Score and the Dover interesting. Brown also has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.breitkopf.com\/inventory\/werk\/1436?sr.komponistId=118&amp;sr.besetzungen=&amp;sr.epochen=&amp;sr.query=clive+brown&amp;was=2%2C1\">a book-length volume of Critical Notes<\/a> for the 5<sup>th<\/sup> Symphony which I found incredibly interesting and helpful. Interestingly, many of the new \u201cdiscoveries and corrections\u201d in the Del Mar that everyone was so excited about look more like \u201cpossibilities and questions\u201d in the Brown edition. Brown is exceptionally careful to let the conductor know of all possible credible variant versions left to us by Beethoven, who never arrived at a \u201cfinal\u201d version of the 5<sup>th<\/sup>. Most of the time, you don\u2019t have to even go to the critical notes to see variants- wherever possible he\u2019ll put both versions in the score in a clear format. I came away from the Brown score with a better sense of just how contradictory the sources are, and that as a performer you need to know where the contradictions are and be prepared to make your own determinations of what you think Beethoven was after. If something is not 100% certain from the sources, the editor should let us know that and let us see all the messy, confusing facts, and where possible, give us performing materials that can be adapted to different readings with tons of editing by the librarians.<\/p>\n<p>Now, I\u2019ve repeated the process with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.breitkopf.com\/inventory\/werk\/1030?sr.weltlich=false&amp;sr.isbn=&amp;sr.besetzungen=&amp;sr.epochen=&amp;sr.query=beethoven&amp;sr.geistlich=false&amp;was=11%2C128\">2<sup>nd<\/sup> Symphony<\/a>, also edited by Clive Brown. This time, the critical notes are included in the same volume as the score itself, which is incredibly convenient. With Del Mar (and with the Brown 5<sup>th<\/sup>), you are required to by separate, expensive volumes for the notes. Again, there are many interesting differences with Del Mar- things that are closer to the \u201cold\u201d edition in places, others that seem like completely new discoveries (including some interesting notes that are different in some sources!). As with the 5<sup>th<\/sup>, Brown is generally more pro-active (but not always so) at letting the conductor know when there is more than one legitimate version of the passage at hand, and the presence of the Critical Notes in the same volume makes the process of following up on those points very convenient.<\/p>\n<p>In both symphonies there are passages that I find more convincing in one or the other edition, and Brown doesn\u2019t always come forward with alternate readings to the version he\u2019s given us, but he does so more often than Del Mar.<\/p>\n<p>In this case, I\u2019ve bought my own set of parts from Breitkopf. They look great- I\u2019ll let readers know if funky page issues raise their ugly heads.<\/p>\n<p>So, my verdict? Any professional conductor <strong><em>should<\/em><\/strong> <strong><em>own both scores<\/em><\/strong> when your budget allows for it, as well as a reprint of the old version (which you\u2019ll still see on stands for many years to come and which is really not bad at all). Both are excellent, and the opportunity to compare to such well-researched and well\u00a0presented editions is a delight.\u00a0Right now, Del Mar is the industry standard, and one can get steamrolled in this business if you do much thinking for yourself. However, if you can only afford one at this time, by the Brown- the inclusion of the Critical Notes make it an easy first choice.<\/p>\n<p>I have yet to do any of the symphonies edited by Hauschild. 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