{"id":8503,"date":"2019-05-25T20:28:19","date_gmt":"2019-05-25T19:28:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/?p=8503"},"modified":"2019-06-04T11:43:28","modified_gmt":"2019-06-04T10:43:28","slug":"stockhausen-rains-bullshit-from-the-sky-even-in-death","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2019\/05\/25\/stockhausen-rains-bullshit-from-the-sky-even-in-death\/","title":{"rendered":"Stockhausen rains bullshit from the sky even in death"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>For background, see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2019\/05\/24\/arts\/music\/stockhausen-aus-licht-amsterdam.html\">this recent article<\/a> from the New York Times<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_8504\" style=\"width: 430px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/No-helicopters.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-8504\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-8504\" src=\"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/No-helicopters-420x420.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"420\" height=\"420\" srcset=\"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/No-helicopters-420x420.jpg 420w, https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/No-helicopters-744x744.jpg 744w, https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/No-helicopters-768x768.jpg 768w, https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/No-helicopters-1200x1200.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/No-helicopters-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/No-helicopters-600x600.jpg 600w, https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/No-helicopters-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/No-helicopters-1140x1140.jpg 1140w, https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/No-helicopters-570x570.jpg 570w, https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/No-helicopters-380x380.jpg 380w, https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/No-helicopters-285x285.jpg 285w, https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/05\/No-helicopters.jpg 1300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 420px) 100vw, 420px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-8504\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">No Helicopter sign illustration.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>At the risk of being labelled a grumpy old square, Karlheinz Stockhausen&#8217;s Helicopter Quartet has to be the biggest pile of steaming bullshit ever to emanate from the tradition of Western art music. It is nothing more than an expensive and juvenile joke in terribly bad taste. But, any time some bunch of turkeys manage to con a bunch of suckers out of enough money to put on this atonal publicity stunt, you can count on the major papers of the world to fall for it. It happened in Birmingham a few <span class=\"text_exposed_show\">years ago. In this case the organisers write: &#8220;To fund one of the most iconic parts of aus LICHT, the HELIKOPTER STREICHQUARTETT, we need \u20ac 30.000&#8230;.Thanks to 149 donations, worth \u20ac 30.600, we were able to rehearse the entire composition including the four helicopters on May 7th&#8221;<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"text_exposed_show\">\n<p>That&#8217;s 30k to REHEARSE a stunt where the only thing one needs to be sure of is that the four helicopters don&#8217;t kill anyone.<\/p>\n<p>I seem to spend a huge chunk of my life trying to raise money to put on first performances of new pieces where the notes matter and can be heard, and where listening offers some reward, and it&#8217;s bloody difficult. Getting audiences to take a leap of faith to come hear a new work lasting 30 minutes or more is also tough. Stockhausen was a significant figure in his early career and wrote some really cool music (and was much loved by many of his students and colleagues), but his delusionary and megalomaniacal self- indulgence helped convince millions of potential listeners that all modern music was an expensive and hugely irritating con job. It turns out that description applies best to the Helicopter Quartet, but the joke is on every sincere composer and performer trying to bring worthwhile musical ideas to life. Stockhausen gets free publicity for an un-performable piece (and there&#8217;s nothing cool in writing music that can&#8217;t be played) while the rest of the world get&#8217;s reduced funding and empty halls. It&#8217;s time to call bullshit on the lie that there is something to this piece and that only the cool kids get it. There&#8217;s nothing to get. It isn&#8217;t cool.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>I&#8217;d rather hear the helicopters without the music.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Helikopter-Streichquartett (Helicopter Quartet) - Karlheinz Stockhausen\" width=\"1080\" height=\"608\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/7ykQFrL0X74?feature=oembed\"  allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>UPDATED<\/p>\n<p>I found <a href=\"https:\/\/www.afka.net\/Articles\/1974-03_Iconoclast.htm\">this fascinating quote<\/a> from Frank Zappa on Stockhausen. It made me feel like maybe I&#8217;m on to something.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">ICONOCLAST: What particularly disturbs you about present-day composers?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">ZAPPA: It&#8217;s the post-Webern generation. The post-Penderecki composers. It is such a climb-on-the-bandwagon type of routine, you know. People started getting into Webern and everybody wrote boop-beep shit. You know, spaces in between the notes, and serializing the amount of rests in your piece, and all that stuff. The only person that could really appreciate it would be a computer programmer, and they certainly don&#8217;t have an ear for it. And besides that, Webern did it perfectly, and there is no reason that anybody should have tried to whip on it like that. When Penderecki came along with his dense clusters and his string effects and stuff like that, a lot of other composers started doing the same thing. It is like the latest &#8220;mod&#8221; clothing or something; just too many people getting into the superficial modernism of a type of sound without providing any real content to their pieces. There is no life to them. I go out and buy contemporary music all the time \u2013 that&#8217;s mostly what I buy for albums. And I have been invariably disappointed by the pieces an all the hot new up-and-coming guys. And\u00a0<span class=\"auto-style1\">especially<\/span>\u00a0the electronic music. It&#8217;s just so. . . drab.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">ICONOCLAST: Is there anybody in electronic music that you appreciate? Stockhausen? Subotnik?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">ZAPPA: I don&#8217;t like Stockhausen&#8217;s electronic music. I\u00a0<span class=\"auto-style1\">really<\/span>\u00a0don&#8217;t like Subotnik. There is one piece by Stockhausen that I enjoyed \u2013 I have an album with &#8220;Song of the Youths&#8221; on one side and &#8220;Kontakte&#8221; on the other. That&#8217;s pretty good. <strong>Most of the rest of it is. . . it&#8217;s <em>not\u00a0<span class=\"auto-style1\">musical <\/span><\/em><\/strong><span class=\"auto-style1\">[emphasis added]<\/span>. And I&#8217;m not a math freak so I&#8217;m not going to sit there and. . .<\/p>\n<div id=\"wp_fb_like_button\" style=\"margin:5px 0;float:none;height:100px;\"><script src=\"http:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/all.js#xfbml=1\"><\/script><fb:like href=\"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/2019\/05\/25\/stockhausen-rains-bullshit-from-the-sky-even-in-death\/\" send=\"false\" layout=\"box_count\" width=\"450\" show_faces=\"true\" font=\"arial\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\"><\/fb:like><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For background, see this recent article from the New York Times &nbsp; At the risk of being labelled a grumpy old square, Karlheinz Stockhausen&#8217;s Helicopter Quartet has to be the biggest pile of steaming bullshit ever to emanate from the tradition of Western art music. It is nothing more than an expensive and juvenile joke [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":8504,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_et_pb_use_builder":"","_et_pb_old_content":"","_et_gb_content_width":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8503","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-music-opion-life-as-a-performing-musician"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8503","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8503"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8503\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8543,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8503\/revisions\/8543"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/8504"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8503"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8503"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kennethwoods.net\/blog1\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8503"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}