Mahler was underpaid?

Kenneth Woods | A view from the podium, Music and Media | Wednesday, September 13th, 2006

 

 

From Alex Ross of the New Yorker on conductor salaries past and present- 
        

“Eyebrows have been raised over recent reports that James Levine receives a salary of $1.6 from the Boston Symphony and $1.9 million from the Met, and that Lorin Maazel gets $2.6 million from the New York Philharmonic. Excessive or no, salaries on this scale are nothing new. Not long ago Cornell University Press published Gustav Mahler: Letters to His Wife, in Antony Beaumont’s meticulous translation, and I found there a detail that I hadn’t noticed in previous Mahler tomes: in March 1911, even as his health went in fatal decline, GM signed a new contract at the New York Philharmonic for ninety concerts at a fee of $90,000. I ran that through the inflation calculator and came up with the figure of $1.8 million in today’s money. Not bad for a man who thought his time had not yet come”   

The interesting comparisons would be to see what the Philharmonic salary would have been back then, and to see what other conductors at the time were making. 

Better yet- can we find out what the head of Standard Oil or one of the big railway companies was making then? 

Even better- What was the Philharmonic’s Executive Director making in 1911????? 

I’ve written before about the fact that, compared to the top people in other fields, elite classical musicians seem terribly underpaid. Has this always been the case, even when classical music was a more central part of the culture?  By the way, 90 concerts is a lot of concerts. Just at a guess, if Lorin Maazel does 15 weeks a year at the Philharmonic, and does triples every time, that’s still two years, which means Maazel would be making 5.2 million to Mahler’s $1.8 million, or $20k per concert for Mahler compared to $58k/concert for Maazel. Remember, that’s assuming that Maazel does 90 performances with the Philharmonic over 2 years. Note that those are fees per concert, not per week, and that these are only complete and total guesses, and that I still think Mr. Maazel deserves everything he makes and more. (As a matter of personal policy, I don’t believe there are any underpaid decent musicians out there)

What does Peyton Manning make per game? (Answer- about a million dollars per game in 2003) Per touchdown?($551,724 per touchdown in 2003) How about per completed pass? ($42,215 per completion in 2003). And he is one of the most prolific and durable players at his positions- consider other top players who miss 4-8 games a year for similar money… I think announcers should have to announce what a player made every time he threw a pass or fumbled or made a tackle. “Nice tackle from Junior Seau coming across the middle. Last year, Junior made $80k per tackle, so he’s feeling great about that.”

Did you know the Washington Redskins paid 7.4 million dollars per game in salary in 2004 and went only 6 wins 10 losses on the year. That’s 19.7 million dollars per win, by the way, not counting the coaches or administration.

I doubt many, if any, music directors of top 10 American orchestras would do a concert at the Philharmonic for $20k.

 

UPDATE- Alex Ross has followed up on my comparison, pointing out-

“Indeed, classical music is very small potatoes compared to the remainder of the American military-industrial-cultural complex. By the way, the person in charge of the Philharmonic in 1911 was Mary R. Sheldon, the wife of the treasurer of the Republican National Committee.”

I’m guessing (hoping) Ms Sheldon was a volunteer. Alex?
 

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c. 2006 Kenneth Woods
 

 

3 Comments »

  1. Very interesting article. As a wannabe conductor and enormous football fan I must say though that football generates infinitely more revenue than classical music, so the money there is on par with the owner’s income, or at least close to it. As for the Redskins…oh Daniel Snyder, will you ever buy a title?

    Thanks again for a look into this.

    Comment by Erik K — September 14, 2006 @ 6:32 pm

  2. Hi Erik

    Thanks for the comment.

    Owner’s income…..

    I like it

    Maybe orchestras will become the new football teams- status symbols of the ultra rich. Just think, Snyder can buy the National Symphony, then threaten to take them to San Antonio unless the city builds them a new hall with luxury boxes. He goes out and poaches players from all over the world and brings Bernstein out of retirement to lead the NSO to the world orchestra championship.

    Actually, in all seriousness, I’m sure orchestras would get more financial backing from national, state and local government if they were owned by billionaires than they do now, run as non profits for the good of society.

    KW

    Comment by Kenneth Woods — September 14, 2006 @ 10:06 pm

  3. […] September 18, 2006 at 10:16 am · Filed under Uncategorized This just in, as a follow up to my post and that of Alex Ross on Mahler’s salary as conductor of the New York Philharmonic— “In reply …, the salary proposed to Mahler by the Guarantors’ Committee of the New York Philharmonic in February-March 1911 for 80 to 90 concerts was $30.000, not $90.000. I do not have the time just now to search through the English volume of Mahler’s letters to Alma, but I was one of the original editors of the German volume and I worked together with Antony Beaumont throughout the whole time of the revision. Thus, I do not believe that such a shocking error could have crept in.  If I am wrong I would be grateful to know the reference so as to inform Antony Beaumont and the American publisher that the figure is erroneous and must be corrected as soon as possible.” Henry-Louis de La Grange  * Interesting then that Mahler’s salary in modern numbers would be about $600,000 for 90 concerts, or a meager $6,600/ concert- about a 10th of what top earning conductors might charge today. Alex Ross was not mistaken in his original post; according to the English version of “Gustav Mahler: Letters to His Wife”, on p. 391 is the following quotation: “On 8 March he wrote to the Committee accepting their proposal of 90 concerts for a fee of $90,000” What amazing times we live in, when a scholar like Professor de La Grange can uncover a mistake like this through the power of a couple of blogs and an email list. Thanks to Deborah Hess and Peter Sheldorn of Mahlerlist for helping get to the bottom of this as well. * For those of you who are not Mahler nuts, Prof. de La Grange is the leading biographer of Gustav Mahler- the author of a multi-volume biography. […]

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