Kenneth Woods- a view from the podium

It is a fact of life that most organizations think of programming largely in terms of marketing. While almost all musical organizations have some desire to do interesting things, there is always a certain amount of pressure to focus on “getting an audience,” which usually equates to conservative programming.

After many years as a music director, who knows that if you don’t have an audience you don’t have an orchestra, I’ve had to face the simple mathematical truth that, more often than not, Beethoven sells more tickets than Schumann, and Schumann sells more tickets than Haydn, and Haydn sells more tickets than Bartok. With most of my groups, we can predict with some accuracy what percentage our audience will tail off from 100% by having one, two or three relatively unfamiliar pieces on a concert.

However, the problem with this outlook is that it only focuses on the experience and reactions of the audience up to the moment they enter the hall. Conservative programming is programming designed to get the public to come, but is it programming that gets them to come back?

Of course, there is a false dichotomy, which everyone is aware of- it is very, very possible to construct a creative, interesting and unique program that the audience will enjoy. The problem is getting them in the door to experience it.

Fair enough, but I think one of the fundamental weaknesses of modern classical institutions is that we have settled for a passive and passionless relationship with our audiences.

Several times this year, I’ve been deeply struck that when you are able to do something that really challenges the audience, they come away from the experience more engaged and MORE PASSIONATE about the orchestra or the ensemble then they would have been for just another predictably bland concert.

Along these lines, it was very encouraging to get to meet so many audience members after the Ensemble Epomeo concert at the Newburyport Chamber Music Festival. Our program was certainly challenging

Krasa- Tanec for Trio

Hovhanness- String Trio (1963)

Klein- Variations on a Moravian Theme (from Trio 1944)

Schnittke- String Trio

Beethoven- Trio in C minor op 9 no 3

(Encore- Kodaly- Intermezzo)

We’d been warned it was a conservative crowd, but from the level of energy in the room at the recession, you’d have thought we were playing for a new music festival audience. People were engaged, fired up, talking about what the pieces meant, about what they had experienced. As often happens, we had people literally jump out of their chairs in spots of the Schnittke. After a first half that mostly dealt with dire questions of life and death, the Beethoven could also be heard as the ferocious, imposing and revelatory work it is, not as something safe and mild-mannered.

The same thing happened with the SMP recently did Ives 3 and Shostakovich Chamber Symphony alongside Schumann and Mozart for our usually conservative Guildford audience, or, for that matter, when we did the Fifth Prokofiev concerto. In both instances, attendance was off a bit from our usual sell-outs, but I think more people talked to their friends about those concerts than would have if we had had just done Mozart. It’s another form of math- if 75% of your public show up for the wacky program, but 90% of them tell their friends about the experience isn’t that going to be better in the long run than if the hall is 100% full, but only 20% of the audience remembers the evening as anything other than nice, or mention it to anyone else?

Of course, we’ve got to get people in the door- sometimes that means working harder, sometimes it means making conservative programs and just doing a great job. When I started at OES, the idea of the orchestra doing one new piece a season was anathema. It took some time and a few well-chose bits of more accessible 20^th c faire before we could begin to consider a commission, but by the time I left, we were doing them regularly, and patrons were FUNDING them. How cool is that?

I had one of those memorable 20 second conversations today after our Exeter performance on the Aliento Chamber Music series. Before the Schnittke, I had mentioned to the audience that the piece was written around the time of his first stroke, and that  the first movement does seem like a terrifying struggle for survival. After the concert a woman greeted me and said she had cried through the whole piece. Her daughter had a stroke last year, and when she began to get well enough to communicate, she told he mother in some detail about what it felt like and how terrifying it was. The woman said that throughout the piece, she kept thinking of her daughter’s stroke and couldn’t escape the parallels. “It sounded just like what she went throug.” She said it was terrifying from beginning to end, that she cried through the whole thing, and at the end, she felt somehow better, even a bit healed.

Wouldn’t you rather that than an under-rehearsed hack-through of the Trout?

Few are more aware of the difficulties of selling Haydn than Franz Patay, an organizer of festivities marking the bicentenary.
“If you show someone a (Haydn) bust they’ll think it’s Mozart,” says Patay, who was also involved in the all-Austrian hoopla surrounding the 250th anniversary of Mozart’s birth three years ago. Patay says the Haydn budget of around $40 million — around $56 million — was about a quarter of what was allocated to the Amadeus year.

Read the whole thing here.

I’ve said it here before, but I’m not sure everyone heard me.
Haydn was a more creative, more talented and more skilled composer than Mozart.
More interestingly, I think the generally accepted breakdown of their respective gifts is mostly wrong. We hear that Mozart was the most facile and infallible composer who ever lived, a man who never needed to sketch or to revise, and whose works are infinitely fresh and inspired.
On the other hand, we’re taught that Haydn is the model of all that is normal in music. “In a Haydn symphony, you’d expect the development to do this, but Beethoven does something surprising here.”

In fact, I have yet to come across a single join between phrases or a single harmonic event or a single rhetorical corner in mature Haydn that unfolds in a predictable way. For all that he creates the strongest sense of expectation of any composer who ever lived, he never seems to simply give us what we expect. Simple alternations of 4-square antecedent consequent phrases are rarer than a hungry fox in a hen house.
On the other hand, for all we hear of Mozart’s divine spark, there are huge stretches of his music that are formulaic and four-square, especially in the orchestral music. For all the wonder that unfolds from it, the opening of the Jupiter Symphony is quite boilerplate. And Mozart did need to sketch- his most perfect works, like the Haydn quartets and the Requiem were meticulously sketched. For all that we think of him in terms of elegance and infinite facility, there is plenty of Mozart that is clunkier, more predictable and more formulaic than anything Haydn would ever write.
On the other hand, Mozart wrote a good chunk of the most deeply moving, profoundly sad music ever. Of course, regular Vftp readers know that I have a special place in my heart for the Requiem, but think also of the Andante from the Sinfonia Concertante for Violin and Viola, which towers above the rest of that piece, but is so, so, so moving. The 40th Symphony is simply the greatest tragic symphony ever written- certainly the most tragic tragic symphony ever written. When he broke a sweat, he could unleash an astonishing facility- think of the Finale of the Jupiter.

Far from being the facile and elegant classicist, Mozart’s genius was really as the first Romantic, experimental composer.
The oft repeated anecdote-
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And Mozart’s father, Leopold, cited Haydn as telling him: “Your son is the greatest composer I know.”

Is often quoted to imply that somehow Haydn thought of Mozart as more talented, but Haydn and  Mozart both knew that Haydn’s skill, invention and facility far surpassed those of his beloved young friend. That’s why Mozart struggled more with the Haydn quartets than with any other works in his output.

But Haydn’s statements on Mozart show that he understood better than most musicologists and performers the nature of Mozart’s genius-

“How inimitable are Mozart’s works, how profound, how musically intelligent, how extraordinarily sensitive!” he wrote.

Notice that he stressed profundity and sensitivity. Haydn understood that Mozart was the first Romantic- that his true gift was his ability to take us to the absolute centerpoint of the human soul than any other composer.
I’ve got a busy month of Haydn concerts ahead. The article quoted above implies that people don’t like Haydn as much as they like Mozart, but I’d say that my Haydn concerts of the last 3 or 4 years have been some of the most well-received ones I’ve done. These are all important gigs for me, and it is no accident that I pushed for Haydn on all of them- I know the audience will love it. Haydn doesn’t have to be a minority interest- when people hear his music done well, the adore it.

June 19, 2009
Orchestra of the Swan
Shakespeare Summer Proms
Stratford-upon-Avon
Haydn and Mendelssohn Anniversary Prom
Stratford-upon-Avon
Mozart- Symphony no. 12
Haydn- Cello Concerto no. 1 in C major
Nick Stringfellow, cello
Mendelssohn- Song Without Words
Haydn- Symphony no. 45 “Farewell”
Haydn-Jahr 2009

June 26, 2009
International Festival-Institute at Round Top
Texas Festival Orchestra
Haydn Anniversary Gala Concert, Haydn-Jahr 2009
James Schlefer- Concerto for Shakuhachi and Chamber Orchestra
World Premiere Commission
Haydn- Sinfonia Concertante for Oboe, Bassoon, Violin and Cello
Haydn- Symphony no. 86 in D Major

July 4, 2009
Helix Ensemble
Haydn- Symphony no. 60 “Il Distratto,” Haydn-Jahr 2009
Philip Sawyers- Symphony no. 2
Beethoven- Symphony no. 4

Haydn was the conductor of the greatest orchestra ever assembled (one has only to look at what he wrote for his principals to know that!), the friend of princes, the master in whose shadow Mozart and Beethoven stood. He also sounds like a hipper and more fun guy than most people think-

A lover of wine, Haydn insisted that a part of his yearly salary be paid in it. He worshipped women — except for his wife, who used to rip up his scores and use the paper as hair curlers. Haydn was a mentor to Mozart, who credited him with teaching him how to write string quartets — and who freely used elements of the elder composer’s music in his works.

And — despite his relative obscurity now compared at least to Mozart — he was BIG in his time.

Mozart died impoverished and with his musical legacy unsecured. Haydn, in contrast, dined at the table of Esterhazy — one of Europe’s most powerful princes — and members of the British royal family bowed to him during his London sojourns.

Beethoven famously refused to defer to royalty, but royalty offered to defer to Haydn. ‘Nuff said.

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I’ve just been made aware of this- the last recorded interview with Richard Hickox, available as a podcast on the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra website.

Click here to listen, or right click and select “save target as” to download to your computer. The interview with Richard is about halfway through the podcast, following a discussion of Nielsen with my Discovering Music colleague, Stephen Johnson

Too many notes to learn this week to keep up the blogging pace, but have been meaning to re-blog this interview I did for Metro with their culture writer Sophie Hern before my Contemporary Music Ensemble of Wales concert in March since it ran, as it was never published on their website, just in the paper. I’m hoping we can manage a podcast of highlights of that concert for those who couldn’t catch the broadcast on Radio 3. Watch this space.

Sophie Hern: What is your history with the Contemporary Music Ensemble of Wales?

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I knew as soon as I saw the Gramophone list of the “world’s 20 best orchestras” that, in spite of my better judgement, I would eventually be compelled to say… something? It’s a great list, and I love Gramophone because they love Vftp…

Why against my better judgement? Well, crazy as it sounds, I do have an ambition to conduct all of those orchestras, and I’d hate to make my long-awaited “____________ Philharmonic” debut only to have the concertmaster welcome me at the first rehearsal by saying “so, you were the one who thought we were over-rated in 2008????”

Here’s the list, for those of you who haven’t seen it-

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In today’s New York Times Daniel Wakin weighs in on the Elgar-vibrato “kerfuffle” (by the way, I’m not English, I’m not a traditionalist, and I don’t object to Elgar being played without vibrato, I object to the claim that Elgar should be played without vibrato on the grounds that he would have expected and wanted it played that way, a claim which is both false and not very useful for developing an interesting and exciting take on Elgar’s music because it is as simplistic as it is untrue).

To my delight, I was reminded of my own writing from two days ago (a passage which now bothers me as I had no right to try to guess or assume another musician’s motives)-

…there are problems with the approach that far transcend the use of string vibrato, and point to this being an expression of a musical aesthetic that belongs not to Elgar, but to the conductor himself, who, like Stowkowski before him, seems to have decided he knows better than the author how the the work at hand should sound, that his sound concept is so important as to allow him to diverge from the text anywhere the text would force a divergence from his sound concept.

When I read this in Wakin’s piece- it seemed that Norrington and I have found common ground.

He also acknowledged that early recordings of orchestras playing Elgar’s music under the composer’s own baton revealed a fair bit of vibrato. “In the end it’s an aesthetic question,” he said. “It’s a matter of taste. I love the sound.”

“I like it this way” is a perfectly fine reason for doing things. I would just have hoped that the conductor would have tried to not sacrifice so many wonderful details in the score in pursuit of that sound. (I just think a 52 minute symphony needs more than one sound).

After all, Bach’s harpsichord music works well on the piano, but only if it’s done well. If you can do Bach on a Steinway, and Mozart with the 1960’s Philladelphia Orchestra, why not Messiaen on a fortepiano, or Elgar with a classical orchestra (actually a classical string secion within a modern orchestra). I have a friend who playes Paganini Caprices effortlessly on the diatonic harmonica- I love hearing it, and can’t begin to understand how he does it. I’d certainly rather listen to him than many violinists,and not just for the novelty. I just wouldn’t want to see him declaring that that’s what Paganini had in mind.

Anyway, it’s not surprising the difference in an American writer’s take on this (Wakin’s piece is very pro-Norrington and rather dismissive of doubts about his approach as being rooted more in the insecurity that comes with being British than anything else), as American orchestras have, in general, erred on the side of being too change resistant when they could have bennefited earlier from coming to terms with the many interesting discoveries of performanace practice research.

Then, I found Alan Kozinn’s hilarious article on the difficulties of playing the horn.  I know at least one musician whose breakfast would have been ruined on opening the paper today…..

But surely the most catastrophic horn performance of the season — of many seasons, for that matter — was at the New York Philharmonic in March, when Alan Gilbert, conducting his first concert with the orchestra since having been appointed its next music director, opened his program with Haydn’s Symphony No. 48, a work with two prominent and perilous horn parts.

The Philharmonic has long been action central for horn troubles; its principal player, Philip Myers, is wildly inconsistent, and the rest of the section is also accident-prone. Much of the time Mr. Myers’s playing is squarely on pitch, shapely and warm, and when it is, it’s everything you want in a French horn line. But he cracks, misses or slides into pitches often enough that when the Philharmonic plays a work with a prominent horn line, you brace yourself and wonder if he’ll make it.

The Haydn symphony was a real clambake.

Ouch…..

Interestingly, I’ve found that when I do Haydn symphonies with hand horns the accuracy rate (even with the same players!) goes way up. The balance also improves immeasurably. In this sense, the historical instrument movement has taught us a great deal- what seems like problematic or even bad orchestration on modern instruments might work fine with the original equipment. Elgar 1 would be better off with small bore brass instruments which allow players to play big without obliterating everyone else- brass technology has changed more than string technology in the last 100 years.

Still, as I read this I was reminded of a horn sectional I once watched with a gifted young horn section under the guidance of a legendary London horn principal and professor. When they had some accuracy problems, he took the passage and repeated it mercilessly, each time saying “alright, this time…. .REALLY concentrate…. REALLY CONCERTRATE on not SPLITTING…” In a cruel way, the process and the result were rather funny, but, predictably, accuracy did not improve…. ever… again…. 

Likewise, when one of the world’s most important critics basically calls upon the hornists of the world to stop missing notes in New York, well….. If I were a NY listener, I wouldn’t get my hopes up, especially if I saw that critic in the audience. Talk about exquisite pressure.

Horns- CONCENTRATE….. REALLY CONCENTRATE….. CONCENTRATE on NOT SPLITTING!!!! This is New York, damnit! CONCENTRATE!

By the way, I am so doing Haydn 48 as soon as I can. At the first rehearsal, I’ll look right at the horns and tell them

CONCENTRATE!!!!!!

By the way, Maestro Norrington- I really am a fan of much of your work and am interested in what you have to say. Why not email me at ken@kennethwoods.net   and we can do a podcast interview/discussion/debate? I bet young conductors would learn a lot and really dig it!

Conducting schools are relatively scarce so four years ago, Kenneth Woods decided to start a workshop in Portland, where students could continue to acquire the technical and musical skill needed for a conducting career. Some aspects are easily learned, others not. Last week, student conductors came from around the world to Lewis & Clark College for the week-long workshop. Here’s a glimpse…

So begins a nice feature on the 2008 Rose City International Conductor’s Workshop in the Sunday Oregonian by senior music critic, David Stabler. The article can also be viewed in a slightly different format here.

 (Doug Bechtel, The Oregonian)

Accompanying the article on the web version is also this podcast by David Stabler, with clips of the Rose City Chamber Orchestra reading Appalachian Spring with a number of student conductors.

If you’ve been reading my insider’s view of the workshop here, you won’t want to miss Stabler’s piece.

Courtesy of Oregon Public Broadcasting, here is a fascinating interview with long-time Steinway chief concert technician, Franz Mohr, who was also the personal piano technician to Horowitz. The program is called “A Life in Tune,” from OPB’s Think Out Loud. It’s a bit of departure from their usual public affairs programming, so listen on line and be counted among their listeners! Great anecdotes about Horowitz, Rubinstein and others. The entire program is about 52 minutes long. Follow the link or right click on “Save target as”

Here is the blurb from the OPB website

Franz Mohr talks about pianos in a different way than you may be accustomed to. He might start with the wood: close-grained Alaskan sitka, Eastern seaboard or European spruce, resinous sugar pine, hard-rock maple. He’ll touch on labor: 400 different craftsmen spending nine months putting 5000 pieces together. There are the serial numbers — some famous, among a certain set — of the finished products: CD 75, or CD 223, or his beloved CD 314 503. And only then might he get to the Who’s Who of concert pianists of the last century: Vladimir Horowitz and Glenn Gould, Rudolf Serkin and Van Cliburn, Artur Rubinstein and André Watts. Franz Mohr worked with all of them.

From 1968 until 1992, Mohr was the “head concert technician” for Steinway and Sons pianos. He traveled the world to tune, tweak, regulate, and repair the pianos of the masters before their major performances and recording sessions. He learned, early on, that Horowitz favored a very light, responsive action (and found it, with Mohr’s help, in CD 314 503), and that Rubinstein sought more resistance in the keys. He learned that pianos, like people, have natural emotional tendencies. Some are big and brash, born for the grand hall. Others shine in small chamber conversation.

Franz Mohr will join us in the studio to talk about all of this, and more. Are you interested in the backstage lives of the pianists he’s worked for? Or perhaps the pianos he’s worked on? Are you a pianist yourself? Have you found the piano of your dreams? If not, what would it feel like? What would it sound like

You can give OPB a shout out for producing such an informative and intelligent program by using the comment function on their website here

Here is a recent piece from the Western Mail, based mostly on an interview I did with them a few weeks ago. Current Arts Council of Wales guidelines only support funding commissions of new music if it is for dance.

Keith Griffin, of music umbrella body Ty Cerdd, said: “I don’t think we treat our composers as well as they deserve.

“There’s nothing like the same lauding of individual artists as there is in, say, literature or the graphic arts.”

He said the ACW was covering more artistic activities than in decades past, but its funding had not increased to reflect the greater diversity. That left funding for new music at its lowest since the Second World War.

An ACW spokeswoman said: “The ACW’s scheme for commissioning new music is currently conditional on the music accompanying dance.”

Peter Reynolds, artistic director of the Lower Machen Festival, near Caerphilly, said “to have that as the only commissioning scheme seems madness to me.”

 

My interview with young LA music students that ran on the Classics Alive webstite has been re-run on Violinist.com here.

 If you missed it the first time, have a look. The kids asked some great questions.

 K

UPCOMING CONCERT-

Lancashire Chamber Orchestra

Sunday, January 20, 2009

7:30 PM

Altrincham Grammar School for Girls

Mozart- Overture to “Die Zauberflote”

Beethoven- Piano Concerto no. 4 in G major

Ivan Hovorum, piano

Beethoven- Symphony no 5 in C minor

Thoughts from Ken-

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I’ve written here before about the modern excesses of copyright law. Today, I came across this interesting article in the Boston Globe- it appears that legal scholars have found interesting models for the protection of intellectual property that doesn’t involve the expensive and litigious system now used by record companies and film studios. Have a read and see how stand-up comedians, chef’s and magicians handle issues of creativity without the courts. Also included in the article is an interesting historical overview of the evolution of copyright law:

The question of what level of intellectual-property rights should be extended to creators has dogged America from the start. Even as prodigious an innovator as Thomas Jefferson was reluctant to protect ideas too stringently, maintaining as a point of principle that “ideas should freely spread from one to another over the globe, for the moral and mutual instruction of man.” Yet Jefferson also realized that, in a world where original creations take time, money, and energy to produce but are easy to copy, creators need to be offered “incitements to ingenuity” if they are to keep contributing to the economic and creative health of the nation.
The Constitution was written to maintain this balance between private wealth and commonwealth, allowing Congress to grant to creators - authors, musicians, inventors, and so on - “exclusive Rights” to their creations “for limited Times.” This formulation, the author Lewis Hyde writes, “allows a market in cultural property but also puts an outer boundary on that market.”

For much of the country’s history, that boundary held relatively fast, and led the country through successive waves of innovation.

Yet in the information age, where ideas play a dominant role in the marketplace, the boundary has shifted markedly in favor of private interests. This is clearest to see in the case of copyrights - along with patents and trademarks, one of the three major classes of intellectual property. In 1790, copyright protection lasted a maximum of 28 years, after which the property reverted to the public domain, where anyone was free to make use of it. Between 1831 and 1909, the term was doubled to 56 years. Today, after successive extensions passed into law by Congress - most notably, the 1998 Copyright Term Extension Act, which tacked on 20 years - copyright protection lasts on average more than a century.

Why should we be worried about this? Perhaps because the maniacal greed of oligarchial mega-corporations controlling the mainstream media know no boundries? If you think I’m exaggerating, read this (from the Washington Post)!
 

Now, in an unusual case in which an Arizona recipient of an RIAA letter has fought back in court rather than write a check to avoid hefty legal fees, the industry is taking its argument against music sharing one step further: In legal documents in its federal case against Jeffrey Howell, a Scottsdale, Ariz., man who kept a collection of about 2,000 music recordings on his personal computer, the industry maintains that it is illegal for someone who has legally purchased a CD to transfer that music into his computer.

The industry’s lawyer in the case, Ira Schwartz, argues in a brief filed earlier this month that the MP3 files Howell made on his computer from legally bought CDs are “unauthorized copies” of copyrighted recordings.

 

Special thanks to Steve Layton at  Sequenza 21 for bringing this to my attention.

c. 2007 Kenneth Woods

The Rose City Chamber Orchestra (KW principal guest conductor) has been nominated for the first Oustanding Achievement in Classical Music Award as part of the 2008 Portland Music Awards sponsored by Music Spectator Magazine. Other nominees include the Oregon Symphony, James DePriest, Portland Cello Project and Jon Pittman. The awards show is January 28th, 2008. 

Highlights of the orchestra’s recent work include a residency by composer Christopher Thomas (this is his film website- he also has a strong background in “legit” composition) including a number of premieres, and a multi-year exploration of the musical arrangements made for the Verein für musikalische Privataufführungen (or Society for Private Musical Performances) under ths supervision of Arnold Schoenberg. The most recent installment in this series was the Schoenberg arrangement of Mahler’s Das Lied von der Erde with the American tenor Brennen Guillory and mezzo Alexis Hamilton. 

In 2005, the Rose City Chamber Orchestra undertook a major initiative in training young and emerging conductors when the musicians founded the Rose City International Conductor’s Workshop (KW director). In our first three years, the workshop has atttracted students literaly from all over the world, including many who are sure to be stars of the future. The workshop puts a uniquely high emphasis on accompanying and opera skills, regularly inviting professional soloists and singers to work in masterclasses with the student conductors. The Fourth Annual workshop takes place from July 22-27. 

The Rose City Chamber Orchestra was founded by, and remains entirely run by, musicians who wanted a group that gave them an opportunity to choose their own musical projects. I’m very, very proud to be associated with them, and very happy that their efforts have been rewarded with a bit of well-deserved recognition. The members of the committee put in hundreds of hours of work every year to keep the orchestra going, a degree of commitment and enthusiasm that’s all too rare today.Listen here to a small excerpt from our most recent concert

It was a blustery Friday night, and I had a lot on my mind already. One day away from the final Surrey Mozart Players concert of 2007, we had a great deal of ground to cover in the evening rehearsal, particularly on Mozart’s Jupiter Symphony. 

It’s always a long drive to SMP rehearsals, Fridays doubly so, and rainy, windy Fridays in the holiday season trebly so. As I ground out the long commute, you might well have thought I was using every available minute to prepare myself for a productive evening’s work on the Mozart.  However, fate had intervened when I stopped for petrol en route and bought a copy of The Independent because it had a special commemorative section on Led Zeppelin in honor of this week’s reunion concert.

Having grown up in an age when Zeppelin towered over everyone’s musical interests but had disappeared from the world’s stage, I had always been quick to grab anything written about them because it was such a rarity in the 80’s. Old habits die hard, so I inhaled the features while downing a quick cup of coffee.  By the time I’d finished reading, I was struggling to remember much about Mozart admidst my righteous indignation at what I’d just seen in print. (more…)

Yes, in this context that means me 

LA based violinist Lindsay Deutsch has a foundation  called Classics Alive dedicated to encouraging young people’s participation in music and they’ve set up a fantastic kids website and newsletter. Their newest feature is Meet the Maestro- last month it was Borris Brott, who all my Canadian friends know well, and this month it is me.

Click here to go directly to the interview I did with a fascinating panel of young musicians and here to go the kids home page.